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Blakstone
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 28 May 2019    Post subject: Regulator/rectifier live wire cut by thieves?(Keeway rkv125) Reply with quote

My motorcycle was stolen for a joyride and then dumped and recovered by police. It managed to start at the scene and but it later died as I was trying to get it back home. I'm quite inexperienced with repairing bikes but have some understanding of the field (Mechanical engineering student). It felt as though the spark plug had stopped working. Fast forward- I discovered they had cut the live wire (red) leading to the regulator. So, naturally, I thought that was the issue and soldered the broken wire back up. No luck, when I attempted to start the engine, the starter motor would turn and it seemed the rest of the starter systems did, but no spark. I tried with a brand new spark plug, still nothing.

Fuses are all in tact as well, battery checks to 12v.

Does anyone have an explanation for the cutting of power to regulator, and why I was able to start the bike in the first place (on crime scene) but later died?
Does the regulator have anything to do with the staring sequence?

I was initially about to check fuel pump, carb and all, but if there is no spark, then surely fixing that would resolve the issue.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 28 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was stolen there's no surprise they'd messed with the wiring although I have no idea why they'd cut any regulator wires...

I would suspect they've also messed with the ignition wiring e.g. two wires twisted together and on the way home the two have become unravelled.

Either that or you're just unlucky and something like the kickstand switch (or cable) has given out; totally coincidentally.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 28 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the circuit diagram for my Superlight (which is probably nigh on identical your Keeway - the Chinese are nothing if not unimaginative!) I would imagine they were trying to cut the power to a possible immobiliser (although that wouldn't actually work.) The upshot being the regulator won't charge the battery any more which you wouldn't notice so quickly in the summer as the biggest drain would be the headlamp.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 28 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardlyDavidson wrote:
If it was stolen there's no surprise they'd messed with the wiring although I have no idea why they'd cut any regulator wires...

I would suspect they've also messed with the ignition wiring e.g. two wires twisted together and on the way home the two have become unravelled.

Either that or you're just unlucky and something like the kickstand switch (or cable) has given out; totally coincidentally.



Thanks for your reply. They didnt mess up with the wiring tbh, all they had to do was brake open the ignition block and turn a plastic piece which makes contact with some metal plate, closing the circuit. Im not surprised at all as it's a Chinese design.

The kickstand switch makes total sense as the motorcycle currently behaves the same way as it used to when kickstand was down and I attempt to start it (pre theft).

Atm it behaves identically when kickstand is down or up which made me think that was the issue, but alas, I tried to start with the kickstand switch disconnected, still no luck.

Have I done it wrong?
I mean, if the kickstand switch is faulty, what is the proper way to bypass it?
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 28 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blakstone wrote:
Does anyone have an explanation for the cutting of power to regulator,

Incompetent thievery, or simple malice when they'd finished with your bike.
Blakstone wrote:
why I was able to start the bike in the first place (on crime scene) but later died?

You must have been running on battery alone until it was exhausted. 12 volts sounds good but does it have the oomph, the amps? You say the starter works (is it turning the engine?) but still, I'd first charge the battery or try jump leads to a car battery (car engine off).
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 28 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kickstand switch "turns on" when the kickstand is up. To bypass it you need to create a connector to bridge the two contacts. I made one to keep in my tool roll in case mine ever goes again.

Other things that stop the bike that I can think of: clutch, neutral and kill switches. (i.e. if in gear it won't start unless you grab the clutch. Kill switch... not often they go faulty but should be easy to bypass.)
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