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PostPosted: 14:10 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The risk with polarbears is with the young.

Adults can swim for days, hundreds of miles has been recorded but the youngsters can't. As pack ice breaks up more and more with global warming the young get isolated and if the mother can't get them to land quickly they drown.

It's going to get more and more difficult for them but luckily there aren't many humans around fighting them for the same resources which is why they are a good barometer on the effects of global warming on wildlife.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't see many polar bears cos they're all hiding from David Attenborough.
"Oh feck, not him again!"
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
We don't see many polar bears cos they're all hiding from David Attenborough.
"Oh feck, not him again!"


True. There you are, fancying a bit of cuddle time with Mrs PB and a bloody film crew turn up.

How would they like it? Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
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Surely if polar bears are doing really well then one would see an increase in the corresponding seal populations.

Quite the opposite.

You do know how the warming mechanism works, don't you, and that the fact it works is not in dispute?


Polar bears have to eat something. If there was a massive increase in polar bear numbers I would guess it was because of a massive increase in their prey.

Are polar bears eating something else these days? Switched to people maybe? Here's hoping Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You do know how the warming mechanism works, don't you, and that the fact it works is not in dispute?
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You do know how the warming mechanism works, don't you, and that the fact it works is not in dispute?
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:06 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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Wow! He's discovered a whole new species of plant which doesn't need CO2. Either that or the bottle leaks, or more likely, it's bullshit.

Plants absorb CO2 and make O2, the atmosphere in that bottle would soon become too low on CO2 for a plant to survive without a top up. Water can recycle in a sealed environment with plants, but not CO2.


Erm you *do* know that plant respiration produces CO2 don't you? Also there will be bacteria in the soil, decaying plant matter, etc...

Oh and any response to the post with downloadable data? No?

How about the post about atmospheric weather stations all over the world producing the same type of mean curve as the Mauna Loa station? Any response to that? No?

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PostPosted: 22:39 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
I suggest you look up the process of photosynthesis, before stabbing the keyboard anymore, you cocky twat.

Plants use CO2 during photosynthesis. They do not create CO2 during the process. No fresh supply of CO2, the plant dies.

The process is simple, like you.

There’s no way they emit anyway near enough through respiration to make up for the amount they feed on to produce their energy, considering they must be under light conditions enough per day to stay alive for 50 years.


Back to ad hominem attacks are we?

"Respiration Basics
Respiration allows plants and other living things to release the energy stored in the chemical bonds of carbohydrates such as sugars made from carbon dioxide and water during photosynthesis. While a variety of carbohydrates, as well as proteins and lipids, may be broken down in respiration, glucose typically serves as the model molecule for demonstrating the process, which can be expressed as the following chemical formula:"

C6H12O6 (glucose) + 6O2 (oxygen) --> 6CO2 (carbon dioxide) + 6H2O (water) + 32 ATP (energy)

"In a general sense, respiration can be thought of as the reverse of photosynthesis: The inputs of photosynthesis – carbon dioxide, water and energy – are the outputs of respiration, although the chemical processes in between are not mirror images of one another. While photosynthesis only occurs in the presence of light and in chloroplast-containing leaves, respiration takes place both day and night in all living cells."

This is 'O' level biology. Plants produce CO2 through respiration even while they are photosynthesising. It's an entirely different process. Oh and I've emboldened the important part so that you don't miss it as you often seem to do. Razz

I said this - the second part is emboldened for emphasis as you've conveniently omitted that part.

"Erm you *do* know that plant respiration produces CO2 don't you? Also there will be bacteria in the soil, decaying plant matter, etc... "

Are you going to respond the the global warming data and atmospheric CO2 data posts? Or are you going to give up digging that ever deepening hole you're in? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 26 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
I suggest you look up the process of photosynthesis, before stabbing the keyboard anymore, you cocky twat.

Give it a go, you might learn how some plants can survive in a sealed bottle.

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PostPosted: 00:39 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote


An 'Unprecedented' Early Summer Heatwave Grips Europe as Scientists Warn More Are on the Way


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The 2003 European heat wave has caused about 70,000 fatalities


maybe we’ll crack 100k this time, still not enough though
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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Give it a go, you might learn how some plants can survive in a sealed bottle.

Wink


I'm not convinced. The environment in there has remained a prefect balance for 50 years, with nothing but sunlight entering?

Unless we're ASSunming all the O2 the plant creates is perfectly consumed by something else in there and all the CO2 the plant needs to create energy through photosynthesis, is perfectly created by bacteria in the soil and a tiny amount through plant respiration, so levels remain the same for 50 years, which would be nigh on impossible, the bottle is not actually sealed gas tight.

If it were sealed, the carbon in there is finite, so we're also ASSuming all conversion from one form to another leaves the levels untimately the same. We're also ASSuming the energy created by the plant in the form of sugars, is perfectly replaced by sunlight and the somehow completely energy efficient transformation of CO2 and Water to Sugar and O2, as nothnig else is meant to enter or leave the sealed bottle.
If you believe that, you'll probably believe in all the climate panic over exaggerated bullshit which is all the rage and being pedalled by any platform with virtue signalling points to earn.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Photosynthesis_equation.svg/400px-Photosynthesis_equation.svg.png


So, you're not going to admit you were wrong about plant respiration then? Trying to divert attention from that with a post full of blind dogma are we?

How about the original climate change debate - you know, the one with the data I posted that you've been ignoring and have yet to respond to. Anything to add to that?

Oh and the Mauna Loa debate, you know, the one with the graph showing the same curve from multiple locations? Anything to add about that?

Inquiring minds wish to know... Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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July in the UK is predicted to be cooler than average. Christ on a stick, where do you lot get your weather doom stories from The Daily Express?

It's mid summer, it's meant to be hot FFS! In fact, it's meant to be hotter in the UK than it has been so far and than it is going to be in the next few weeks at least. 2 days of 30+ temperature in mid summer in continental Europe is normal.


You really haven't learned the difference between climate and weather yet, have you? Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it just liken TIME to the daily express? Wow, just wow.

I’ve stopped engaging with it, I’ve always been told not to argue with idiots.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't get over his multiple uses of the term 'ASSuming'.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
You do know how the warming mechanism works, don't you, and that the fact it works is not in dispute?


Yes, thanks, I have no problem with the data but I don't think it's quite going to be 2012 though. One can but hope; if the world doesn't end in the next few years think of all the injuries about to be sustained by the rabid environmentalists climbing off their high horses.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardlyDavidson wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:
You do know how the warming mechanism works, don't you, and that the fact it works is not in dispute?

Yes, thanks, I have no problem with the data (...)

It seems to me that you don't in fact understand how the warming mechanism works, because you refer to it as "data".

So. Please explain, even if in simplified terms, your understanding of how the warming mechanism actually works, to confirm the point.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 27 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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Go and do some reading on Google to learn how some plants can survive in a sealed bottle.
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