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It's only struggling under load because the problem is related to getting enough fuel, rather than related to revs. It takes very little power to get an engine to 9000rpm with no load. It takes ten times as much (rough figure, don't go autistic) to get there with a load on the engine.
It could also be electrical, but let's look at fuel first.
At medium to high engine loads the fuel is flowing through the main jet, up the emulsion tube, and around the side of the needle. If any of these parts are blocked, broken, worn, the wrong size or the wrong setting (for needle height), it won't make power.
In addition, if the fuel height is wrong in the float bowls you'll get problems, or if you have an air leak due to a poorly fitted or cracked inlet rubber, or a missing cap on one or more balancing ports (where you fit the carb balancers).
So, job number one, make sure the carbs are set up according to the factory settings and clean. Bits to check are:
1. Mixture screw position - not a problem in this case, but good to check while you're down there. Factory setting is normally around 2 turns out.
2. Needle height.
3. Jet sizes and condition.
4. Float height.
5. On CV carbs, is the diaphragm in good condition.
You could also have an upstream fuel supply problem - fuel filter or tap clogged. In that case it would probably start and have power for a few minutes, then lose power as the float bowls empty and aren't refilled quickly enough.
Finally, for added fun, I know the GS650 can be an utter bastard to make it behave when you fit a fuel filter. So if you recently fitted a fuel filter and it started misbehaving, try without it. |
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Robby wrote: | It's only struggling under load because the problem is related to getting enough fuel, rather than related to revs. It takes very little power to get an engine to 9000rpm with no load. It takes ten times as much (rough figure, don't go autistic) to get there with a load on the engine.
It could also be electrical, but let's look at fuel first.
At medium to high engine loads the fuel is flowing through the main jet, up the emulsion tube, and around the side of the needle. If any of these parts are blocked, broken, worn, the wrong size or the wrong setting (for needle height), it won't make power.
In addition, if the fuel height is wrong in the float bowls you'll get problems, or if you have an air leak due to a poorly fitted or cracked inlet rubber, or a missing cap on one or more balancing ports (where you fit the carb balancers).
So, job number one, make sure the carbs are set up according to the factory settings and clean. Bits to check are:
1. Mixture screw position - not a problem in this case, but good to check while you're down there. Factory setting is normally around 2 turns out.
2. Needle height.
3. Jet sizes and condition.
4. Float height.
5. On CV carbs, is the diaphragm in good condition.
You could also have an upstream fuel supply problem - fuel filter or tap clogged. In that case it would probably start and have power for a few minutes, then lose power as the float bowls empty and aren't refilled quickly enough.
Finally, for added fun, I know the GS650 can be an utter bastard to make it behave when you fit a fuel filter. So if you recently fitted a fuel filter and it started misbehaving, try without it. |
We've been through the carbs as far as cleaning and float height settings, as for the float heights I do not know what to set for these carbs as I can't find anywhere that shows the right spec, It seems to me its got plenty of gas but I could be wrong. Needle height I'm not sure how to adjust on these to be completely honest this is my first bike i've had with diaphragms like this. For the mixture screw position, are these in the bowls? Because I can't find any screws on the outside of the carbs, only thing I can see is the idle knob and from my past experience with bikes its always been a little screw on the outside |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 302 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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