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AshWebster
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dog is a ratter - he'll have a hell of a fun afternoon round your place.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can see 20 or so of them around then you have probably got a population of nearer 100 or so. We used to have a similar situation when we kept chickens at the bottom of our garden (that backed onto a horse riding stables) ie an unlimited supply of food for the vermin.

I used to go out as it was getting dark and would get one every night with the air rifle (the noise would scatter the rest and it would be too dark by the time they came back out). I did this for a couple of weeks and soon realised that the population was increasing faster than I was culling them.


The local council took over (for free because they classify rats as vermin) and laid poison all over the place. Took more than a month to get rid of them though !
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King29
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

To quote RED 2 "Look at the size of that thing!"

This ladies and gentlemen is Brian.

https://i.imgur.com/Ek49Cvj.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

He looks like a cunt.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got unbelievably dug out on here once by someone telling me off for putting down one of them sticky mousetrap things so that mice would get stuck on them and die of starvation.

I ended up getting a cat (Lawrence), and despite being really quite a small cat, what a brilliant mouser he is, mice, birds, in fact he is a ratter, as well: he goes for nests of baby rats and brings them home to crunch their skulls, eat their brains and rip their guts out. He always leaves me a snout and something that vaguely resembles a kidney.

Filling a wheelie bin full of acid is no less humane than having a ratter and letting it rip their guts out while they are still warm.

Rats are more verminous than mice, even.
Ugh. Brian makes me want to hurl.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
If you can see 20 or so of them around then you have probably got a population of nearer 100 or so.

Easily.

Depends how long little old lady has been feeding them for as from just one breeding pair of rats, in six months you'll have ~50 and in nine months you'll have ~250 of them. Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

And as for Bhud, saying the ones at Pets R Us or whatever, having had the rattitude bred out of them.

Yeah, fucking dream on, matey.

Come the apocalypse those "domesticated pet rats" will be down the Jobcentre looking for rat work, just like all the others.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
And as for Bhud

Wrote a reply for a thread he posted and he'd deleted it by the time I'd got all the information from old threads and from Freedom of Information requests that were relevant. Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: 21:26 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Depends how long little old lady has been feeding them for


9 months.

She put 6 slices of stale bread out and within 20 minutes; all gone so she tells me.


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PostPosted: 21:28 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:58 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
I got unbelievably dug out on here once by someone telling me off for putting down one of them sticky mousetrap things so that mice would get stuck on them and die of starvation.

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Filling a wheelie bin full of acid is no less humane than having a ratter and letting it rip their guts out while they are still warm.


1) I am not at all surprised. Letting your catch die of starvation is illegal, and deservedly punishable. If you must use these things, then you should place them properly so as not to trap something you don't want to catch, and inspect for and dispatch what you catch properly too.

2) You seem to have no idea how dogs kill rats or mice. Perhaps you're talking about poxy cats. Edit: OK, so you are.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

For general interest, species and numbers prey "brought home" by cats (see appendix):

https://www.mammal.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Domestic-Cat-Predation-on-Wildlife.pdf

Not very good at rat-catching in general. Small fast dogs are much better, the best I had was a small mongrel bitch which was very fast indeed, got 7 out of a pile of hardcore being moved in no time Smile
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PostPosted: 02:17 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kill the neighbour and Brian the rat.

Stick the rat in her mouth as a warning to others. Smile
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kin ell Brian does gym! Definitely alpha rat that one. Mind you, kill him and there's two thousand waiting to grab his spot.

The rat infestation sounds awesome. Awesome as long as it stays down there.
Shame you don't have a wildlife cam: Put it beside your back door (of the house, not your bottom) and watch in horror as rats try every night to invade your property.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m loving this thread, needs more pictures though.

I fucking hate mice. I used to be the person who would say “Awww, don’t kill them, they are innocent little beings”… That was until I had a mouse infestation while living in Brixton. Those fuckers tormented me. I would be trying to sleep and one would run over my face, or they’d be next to my bed on the side board chewing on my evening snack, or they would just be squeaking and scurrying around the room. Soon all you can hear is these little fuckers… I got to a point where I slept with all sorts of blunt objects and as soon as I spotted them I would be after them like commando.

When I moved back to god’s country and built my new house, I had another mouse infestation. This time it was all sorts of inhumane traps, my kill count was 53. I got inventive with the home made traps where I managed to drown them.

Acid all the way I say… fucking horrible things.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found 6 dead rats this morning. The blue pills are working, sadly Brian is alive and well. He's special, she gives him warm milk at night, she thinks it's for him but really I suppose they all wolf it down.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian looks more like a Brianetta. Rats have massive bollocks and I don't see any in the picture.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Brian looks more like a Brianetta. Rats have massive bollocks and I don't see any in the picture.


I'd suggest they have just shrunk as he has fired his ratty load into a female rat ready for their next offspring.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Brian" is pregnant with the next batch. Laughing Rats can knock out a new litter every 25 odd days but tend to keep
to being pregnant about 8 times a year. Typically 6 to 8 babbers per litter (x8) per year per female rat. So conservative
figures assuming just 10 breeding females = approximately 640 new rats every year of which about half will be female.

Edit - I should add that each offspring will reach sexual maturity and will be willing and able to breed at about 5 weeks from birth.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
Found 6 dead rats this morning. The blue pills are working, sadly Brian is alive and well. He's special, she gives him warm milk at night, she thinks it's for him but really I suppose they all wolf it down.


Jeez, whatever you bought seems to be working quickly.
The poison I've got seems to kick in about 5 days after being put down.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
And as for Bhud, saying the ones at Pets R Us or whatever, having had the rattitude bred out of them.
Yeah, fucking dream on, matey.

I was never a fan of pet rats I have to say; but one day 30+ years ago, without telling me, my missus brought home a pair of them in a cage to rat-sit while their owner was on holiday. By the end of the first week she had them sat on our laps watching telly, and running round the living room... also I was part-rewiring the house at the time, and by week 2 I was using them to run cables below the floorboards, via lengths of string tied round their midriffs. Was pretty cool actually!

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Shame you don't have a wildlife cam

All you need is an ordinary webcam-fitted laptop with some freebie-motion capture software. We had a single mouse running riot in our house every night for weeks a few years ago; I was instructed to use a humane trap to catch the little bugger, but it never worked, so I set up my laptop one night on my son's bedroom floor to find out why (I had to break up the clip as imgur only allows 15 seconds):

https://i.imgur.com/sXrdSbM.gif

https://i.imgur.com/yag7Rev.gif

https://i.imgur.com/cEZ09ww.gif

The following night he met his match courtesy of a Little Nipper - I never did own up to the family Wink
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feeding time.

https://i.imgur.com/h04ghYm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uJJHC53.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
hellkat wrote:
And as for Bhud

Wrote a reply for a thread he posted and he'd deleted it by the time I'd got all the information from old threads and from Freedom of Information requests that were relevant. Evil or Very Mad


Sorry about that. I can post it again if you like so your efforts don't go to waste.

I decided against applying the Carole Nash DNA+ as it just seemed completely useless - I don't see the police being interested in acquiring some highly specialised piece of hi-tech equipment to investigate stolen bikes. All it would do is establish a bike had been stolen, which is already pretty easy. Then the thieves would trot out the same old lies about having just bought it from a guy in a pub, etc. Pointless.

Back on topic on the subject of the rats, back when I briefly lived in some very remote places in Asia, I remember they were just a fact of life. Massive, black ones, and apparently those were just the small, weak and ill ones (the big, strong ones dominate underground sewers and kick out the weak). They would run around street vendors' feet while they were serving food, even run among the food. There were lots of cats but most of them wouldn't confront those rats - the cats were in very, very poor shape and disease-ridden, and would mooch around for scraps. Enormous rats and cockroaches... People (including me) did seem to get badly sick very often over there, but they had specialist tropical medicine. These brown rats we get here aren't really so different from hamsters, degus and the rest. We've also got pretty good medicine here. We're never going to beat the rats as a species. They could give us a good run for our money in the culling stakes if our numbers get out of hand too (Bubonic plague!)
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, I don't have my post anymore, the reply had more info in it than was necessary because as you say, the police aren't interested. Smartwater, Datatag, Alphadot and now the Carole Nash DNA+ thing aren't going to deter someone from stealing your bike.

Rogerborg did an FOI request to Scotchplod a few years ago to find out how many bikes or parts they'd recovered thanks to Datatag et al and they didn't have any information about it. They don't even record bike thefts separately from car thefts.

It's of very slight value to the insurance company as there's a tiny chance that they might get the bike or some parts of the bike back however many years down the line and then be able to recover some of their losses from your insurance claim.

Back to rats... lol @ feeding time. You're going to end up having to put hundreds of dead rats in your wheelie bin. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 21 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet if you lift a flag stone you'll find a tunnel.

Few years back I did a monster hedge job near Stanley in County Durham. (Stanley is the pits)
Two big gardens divided by said monster hedge. I was up ladders and looked into next doors garden and in the middle was this huge pale tower of flowing shapes. It looked so strange.
Later on I asked the owners of the garden I was in what that weird thing was - it looked like modern art.
Seems next door owned a fish chip shop and they were attempting to use birds to get rid of waste chip shop produce: Old solid grease, cold chips, bad fish etc etc. It was a huge pale pile of congealed grease and waste and rats had discovered it..
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