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| Freddyfruitbat wrote: |
If you believe Johnson's somebody who wings it in speeches, then I think you've rather missed the point of Vine's article! |
A hard left remainer's lame attempt to damage the reputation of a right wing, prop Brexit PM candidate?
BTW, with regards to the leftie neighbours recording Johnson and his girlfriend without their permission, then passing it on to The Guardian to do a hatchet job... Is that legal then? Much like the voicemail hacking scandal, I thought the press had standards to keep on things like this.
Do they not count if the victim is a white Tory?
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Will that be "impartial" left wing BBC luvie, Jeremy Vine? When was this article about an event years ago, released then, was Vine hanging on to revealing it until Boris announced he was running for PM?
Hatchet job, pure and simple. |
Are you seriously telling me that you'd prefer to live in a country where people aren't allowed to talk about politicians any more? Remember all the abuse Corbyn received when he was relevant? I don't recall you arguing that people should keep their opinions to themselves back then...
Hypocritical....
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You miss the point. It wasn't the Guardian's timing, it was Johnson's. |
Ah, so you think the neighbours had been recording Johnson's girlfriends flat for years, in the hope they could find something to discredit him with and just so happened to stumble across this headline scandal once Johnson got into the final 2.
The dirty sh1t going on in politics will probably see certain hardline remainers, who I wouldn't be surprised if Muller and Blair were amongst the funders, I should imagine they are stalking his every word and movement looking for something to attack him in the media with.
It's quite sad really, that politics in the UK is now won and lost in the media and via Muslim or student Labour vote fraud. Democracy is almost dead, the whole system is fecked.
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| Diggs wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: |
Will that be "impartial" left wing BBC luvie, Jeremy Vine? When was this article about an event years ago, released then, was Vine hanging on to revealing it until Boris announced he was running for PM?
Hatchet job, pure and simple. |
Are you seriously telling me that you'd prefer to live in a country where people aren't allowed to talk about politicians any more? Remember all the abuse Corbyn received when he was relevant? I don't recall you arguing that people should keep their opinions to themselves back then...
Hypocritical.... |
I'd rather politics wasn't won or lost by the dirt the media can dig up and vote rigging, and was instead based upon them being the best candidate, so getting the most genuine votes.
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| mpd72 wrote: |
BTW, with regards to the leftie neighbours recording Johnson and his girlfriend without their permission, then passing it on to The Guardian to do a hatchet job... Is that legal then? Much like the voicemail hacking scandal, I thought the press had standards to keep on things like this.
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I don't know, but I am sure that Johnson's legal team will be looking into it as we speak.
It would be an interesting case though....
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I'd rather politics wasn't won or lost by the dirt the media can dig up and vote rigging, and was instead based upon them being the best candidate, so getting the most genuine votes. |
We agree on something...
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However stupid or offensive Boris is, he's still the only option for party members who want Brexit.
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So, someone who couldn't be counted on to deliver a pizza can deal with Brexit? |
You know this how, or is this just more of your biased opinion as a militant leftie?
I'd say out of the current options available, nobody else is more likely to deliver Brexit. If he doesn't, Farage is pretty much shoehorned in to be next PM. Then we'd get the type of Brexit, I and many others voted for in the first place.... To actually "leave" the EU, not partially leave, leave with concessions or leave in name only.
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Biased opinion as a militant leftie?
It's not because he knows that the Tories don't have a good track record for delivering Brexit?
Whilst as this is going on, Farage will be working on TBP election manifesto for the incoming early general election because Boris is only going to be PM until then. |
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| Ste wrote: | Biased opinion as a militant leftie?
It's not because he knows that the Tories don't have a good track record for delivering Brexit?
Whilst as this is going on, Farage will be working on TBP election manifesto for the incoming early general election because Boris is only going to be PM until then. |
Of Theresa May as she's better known. There are some Tories who are pro Brexit, Johnson is one, May is not. C-Vit Sparrow's opinion on Johnson, like all of the remain left, is based upon him actually wanting to leave. It's this reason the remain left are throwing mud at him. They're worried he might actually take us out of the EU.
If we're going to group all MP's into a one large group, depending on party, why not group all cross party MP's as a whole too?
Let's face it, as a whole, across all parties, they're still trying to cancel Brexit.
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Yes I know all of that.
Boris is pro Brexit but his opinion might change when he's in a position to do something.
Whoever wins is just keeping the seat warm until there's another early general election. |
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Boris is pro Brexit but his opinion might change when he's in a position to do something.
Whoever wins is just keeping the seat warm until there's another early general election. |
Very true. It is easy being 'the opposition', although Corbyn has made a poor fist of it so far... A tad more difficult to actually implement something, particularly something as complex as Brexit.
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| Diggs wrote: | A tad more difficult to actually implement something, particularly something as complex as Brexit. |
Nah, It's a piece of piss. "We're off, bye."
Tbh, how many Brexits have we implemented to know how hard it might be?
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| chickenstrip wrote: | | Diggs wrote: | A tad more difficult to actually implement something, particularly something as complex as Brexit. |
Nah, It's a piece of piss. "We're off, bye."
Tbh, how many Brexits have we implemented to know how hard it might be?
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Pity some of our gimmedats don't have a bit of social pride in their country.
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Pity some of our gimmedats don't have a bit of social pride in their country. |
They're too busy working on their "one world" utopia. Did someone mention unicorns?
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| Diggs wrote: | | Ste wrote: |
Boris is pro Brexit but his opinion might change when he's in a position to do something.
Whoever wins is just keeping the seat warm until there's another early general election. |
Very true. It is easy being 'the opposition', although Corbyn has made a poor fist of it so far... A tad more difficult to actually implement something, particularly something as complex as Brexit. |
We’re already prepared for a no deal Brexit. I presume this is why the Remain government have left a 25 mile long stretch of the M20 with 2 lanes unused since early March, with no intention of moving the block until we may need it in October! It’s causing chaos, accidents and deaths, as foreign hgv’s don’t need to abide by the 50mph average speed limit, which is now in place most of the way up the M20.
It takes 48 hours to put this barrier up, so clearly the government think we’ll get under 48 hours notice at any point, to leave the EU?
Either that or they’re just doing it to piss off the public for daring to vote against their wishes.
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