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mikimisz
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Honda CG125 switches Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I've got a 2007 Honda CG125 made in Brazil.
What I would like to change about it are switches on handlebar. What I missing most are hazard lights, kill switch and lights on/off switch (as for now lights are always on).

Can you help me find switches that can replace current one plug&play? Will switches from some other Honda will work?

Cheers!
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y U need Hazard warning lights?
I have on my BMWs but I don't remember an occasion that needed them to be used.

The lights on with the engine running is not any significant issue.
I means you do not have to remember to switch the lights on before you move off.
The lights on thing still works to help other road users see you.
Fucking with that might even lose you somenmam.points if if you To none some cnut and a loss adjuster checks out the bike.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could see if you might need to cross a work site regularly on a bike you'd want the hazards on.

Unfortunately that + switching the lights on and off probably means some rewiring and not just swapping switches Sad
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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plug and play ?

As in remove old switches plug in new ones and off you
jolly well go?
No.
your wiring wont support all those functions without some modifications

Is it doable?

Yes, definitely
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazard Warning Lights IS a slightly more convoluted 'mod' than just bolting on a switch.

First up, the flasher unit that actually makes indies flash, will be a 'balenced' electro-mechanical type. Basically, a solenoid throws a switch 'off' when current goes through it... like when you switch indies 'on'. But, there is a 'lag' between it being turned 'on' and turning it'self 'off'. This lag depends on a) the weight of spring holding the switch 'on' and b) the current drawn by the indy bulbs.. more current the slower the indies flash; less current the faster... which is why indies flash fast when an indy bulb has blown, and you have to get a different flasher if you fit lower wattage bulbs or LED's.

Hazards, flash all four indy bulbs at the same time, so double the wattage on the circuit, they would probably flash at around half the rate, if at all. Cars, with hazards have flashers that have a seperate circuit in them for the hazards.

Then, the old CG, like many, particularly, older and smaller bikes, has a rather crude indicator 'tell-tale' or dash warning lamp. Basically it connects accross both left and right hand indy circuits, so it gets volts from which ever side is 'on' and earths through which ever side is 'off'. If you turned both sides on at the same time, it would not flash, and/or would short circuit the indies so they didn't either"

As has been suggeted, you would have to rewire to make hazards that 'work'. Not just swap or add a switch; the flasher would have to be swapped, the tell-tale re-arranged, and much else....

I HAVE done this on a CB125... BUT the question 'Why' has an elusive answer even for me, and other then 'I can' there isn't reaally an answer, let alone a sensible one.

Hard-Wired Headlamps.... again, "Why"?

There is some reason, on a lightweight like a CG that hard-wired headlamps will be sucking a lot of amps that could be charging battery, and if e-start, and a '98 CG shouldn't even be Duel-Start let alone e-start only (AFAICR!).... you may want/need them amps to go in the battery to save having to hoik the kicker or bump-start.... BUT.... take the hint.... if the battery isn't holding enough chaarge, then that is the problem, and not using headlamps ISN'T the solution! Get a new battery that dont leak! Try using the revs not the gears and actually letting genny spin at charging revs a bit more often! Dont do so many short hops or use the e-boot so hard, so often!

So basically 'no' no plug and play easy swap available. If you no like.. buy a BMW.. or just live with it... thousands over the years have nd do, wht not you?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 31 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all folks for replies!
It seems to be much more effort that I assumed so most probably I will leave it as it is and start saving on mentioned BMW Smile
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