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Irezumi aka Reuben
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Brake bleeding kits. Reply with quote

Need a new brake bleeding kit. Does anyone have any recommendations or just use a one way valve on the bleed nipple?

Thanks for any help.
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steve the grease
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gravity works quite well , the more you pump the lever, the more little bubbles you generate. For the front at least, I just run a pipe down to the ground and have a little bottle to collect the outflow, a couple of pumps to get it started and then let gravity pull the bubbles through, keep topping up the reservoir and tap the pipe and caliper to dislodge any lodged air bubbles whilst you sit back and drink your cup of coffee. It's miles easier than all this frantic pumping. For the rear remove the caliper and hold it up, air likes to rise , so a couple of quick pumps and it's done.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve the grease wrote:
the more you pump the lever, the more little bubbles you generate.


Ooooh, magic gas that spontaneously appears....
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steve the grease
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
steve the grease wrote:
the more you pump the lever, the more little bubbles you generate.


Ooooh, magic gas that spontaneously appears....


Well no,...........but any larger bubbles can tend to break up into smaller ones that stay in suspension in the fluid much longer, making bleeding much more difficult . Have you ever shaken up a clear bottle of shampoo, for example, a similar effect is noticable.
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Islander
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just use a clear plastic tube long enough to fit over the bleed nipple and immerse in a jar with some brake fluid in. Pump the lever slowly until pressure builds, hold it the lever in, crack the nipple open a tiny amount, wait for the fluid to stop flowing, close the nipple, release the lever.

Rinse and repeat until there's no more air coming out of the system and the lever stays firm.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my (admittedly small) experience of brake kits they’re shit for anything other than flushing through old oil, when the system is full already. They seem to struggle when there’s air in the system as the air compresses when the lever is squeezed then expands when released - without any passing the one way bleed valve. (The shorter the pipe between nipple and valve the better, as there’s less air getting squeezed. Trying to bleed a system from empty was just about impossible, I ended up with the old bleed nipple cracking and shutting routine.)
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Irezumi aka Reuben
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice, I'll stick to the jug and tube method then.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irezumi aka Reuben wrote:
Thanks for the advice, I'll stick to the jug and tube method then.

Oh, I don't know; they are often useful. I've got an old Gunson's Easibleed kit which is OK for cars, but for bikes the brake resevoir shape/position can be a problem. You can make "lids" with offcuts of metal/plastic and an old bicycle valve (works well), or you can re-jig the connections to reverse-bleed from the caliper end (works well), or I don't see why an ordinary vacuum cleaner shouldn't be used to pull the fluid out from the caliper end (grease up the bleed nipple to stop leaks, connect to a resevoir bottle with tube, connect the resevoir bottle to the vacuum cleaner hose with a bung, leave the vacuum reducer on the vacuum cleaner hose open to reduce the suck/preserve the vacuum motor. Mind you, if you've got a wifely object, she might take umbridge if you let the fluid go up the vacuum cleaner hose, so take care.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get vacuum ones that work well, and also for cars you can get them that pressurise the reservoir which also work well,

I say for cars because they come with a variety of caps that go in place of the reservoir one but bike ones aren't as universak.

Both are more expensive than a piece of pipe and a jar but I know a vacuum one worked on a thumb brake when I couldn't bleed it traditionally because of the length of the pipe and the routing resulted in an airlock.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reverse bleed for the win. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 27 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap hand pump vacuum one has worked fine for me for years.
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