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A Turkish pension fund? |
Beggars can't be choosers, inshallah...
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That doesn't make sense. Why would a pension fund invest in an industry being crippled by the EU and cheap Chinese steel. I can understand the Canadian teachers pension fund owning the National Lottery because it's guaranteed profit, but British Steel?
I smell EU interfering behind the scenes here. Considering the EU is still giving hand outs to Turkey even though they claim they'll never join the EU.... Yeah right.
Anyone seen the 1000 plus KM wall the EU has paid to be built on the far Turkish border, or are we all too worried about Trump threatening to upgrade his porous border with Mexico?
https://www.iamawake.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/TurkWall-620x350.jpg
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Hang on a minute MDMA, you grumble when the EU lets them in, and now you are grumbling because the EU has paid for a wall to keep them out... 
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| Riejufixing wrote: | | Easy-X wrote: | Okay, so I don't know much about heavy engineering first hand but I do know the Cornish clay industry.
While our lads have to wash it out with water jets |
Coo! How do you know about that? AFAIK the USA is the biggest producer, we're joint second, and Brazil is a little way behind us. Mind you my knowledge is rather out of date.
What are the machines making the "water jets" called?  |
My dad used to work in one of the refineries. He soon shifted to the "LA Plant" at Goonbarrow which was originally an experiment in recovering more clay from the waste from the main refinery. In the end, while it produced less volume, the product turned out to be much higher grade and consequently more valuable.
At one time the price of Tin got so high they even experimented with shaker bed extraction...
The USA might be the biggest exporter now but maybe not historically... all I recall is ppl banging on about the Brazilians (late '80s, early '90s.)
The clay/sand mix (slurry) is washed out with a "monitor" you'll have to search for an image as Google says all the good photos have copyright 
<addendum> If you ever visit Cornwall check out the Wheal Martyn Museum.
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Nearly right Tarquin, just one fatal flaw. This wall is not (yet) at a border with the EU. That's why I called it the far Turkish border.
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I see. I went on a visit to one of the pits there once, booze-up in pub after (or was it before?) somewhere near Bugle ISTR. Very messy indeed in various ways. Didn't know you were in Cornwall, thought up north. |
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There's a pub in Carthew that's on the way to Bugle otherwise it's probably the Bugle Inn. You didn't drink the Rattler did you? It's much stronger than the apple juice that's "exported" up country
My dad only worked briefly in the pits (IIRC) but no, his game was bowls. He helped build the Goonbarrow Bowling Club.
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Two geniuses on Sky News the other day. One from a union and one from the institute of economic affairs.
Union Man: Britain needs to stop importing Aircraft Carriers when they can be built in the UK.
Really? Britain's aircraft carriers post WW2 era
1980 HMS Invincible 22,000 long tons UK
1982 HMS Illustrious 22,000 long tons UK
1985 HMS Ark Royal 22,000 long tons UK
1995 HMS Ocean 21,500 long tons UK
2017 HMS Queen Elizabeth 65,000 long tons UK
2020 HMS Prince of Wales 65,000 long tons UK
IEA woman: [wants to stop all UK steel production because its not viable] ... "Well of course we need to maintain some for national security for the production of airplanes and the like"
No modern planes are made of steel that I'm aware of |
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So we need air craft carriers for all the jobs but we can't actually use any in anger?! Errr.... 
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Nearly right Tarquin, just one fatal flaw. This wall is not (yet) at a border with the EU. That's why I called it the far Turkish border. |
So you are telling me that the EU has funded a wall between a non-member country and a war-zone as an altruistic gesture towards the Turkish population?
Could it just conceivably be that the EU recognises this as a route for migrants and understands that said migrants are unlikely to stop in Turkey?
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So you are telling me that the EU has funded a wall between a non-member country and a war-zone as an altruistic gesture towards the Turkish population? |
That's exactly what's happened. Why did the EU pay for a border between two non EU countries? Why is the EU still throwing money at Turkey when it claims they won't be allowed to join?
| Diggs wrote: | Could it just conceivably be that the EU recognises this as a route for migrants and understands that said migrants are unlikely to stop in Turkey? |
No. As Turkey are hardly going to stop illegal Muslim immigrants entering the EU and we all know they won't stop in Turkey, wouldn't it have made more sense for the EU to use our money to build the wall on the tiny 100M at most long, Turkish borders with Greece and Bulgaria, instead of expecting Bulgaria to pay for it's own barrier on the EU's external border and instead wasting our money on a 700 mile border between two non EU countries?
If you trust the Turks to not be trafficking illegals into the EU, you're either very naive or blinkered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Turkey
| Quote: | Turkey is a top destination for victims of human trafficking, according to a report produced by the UNDOC |
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What you are doing then is agreeing with me that the wall was funded by the EU to make it harder for refugees/migrants to cross into Turkey and then move to the EU.....
It wasn't that hard, was it?
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| Diggs wrote: | What you are doing then is agreeing with me that the wall was funded by the EU to make it harder for refugees/migrants to cross into Turkey and then move to the EU.....
It wasn't that hard, was it? |
No, if it was to protect the EU, it should have been built on the border with the EU, which would have been much shorter, easier, cheaper and effective.
A border between Syria and Turkey won't stop the Turks trafficking illegal immigrants from it's other 9 bordered countries into the EU will it?
You knew that, you're just being an arse as usual.
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Sorry. I momentarily forgot that the EU can't do anything you agree with so you must argue that black is white plus throw in the odd 'Tarquin' and 'arse' to emphasise your point.....
Let me try to explain it in different terms. The EU sees Turkey as a buffer, across which the great unwashed have to travel to enter Europe proper. Make it harder for people to enter, fewer will try. What we have therefore is a physical obstacle in the form of a wall then hundreds of miles of arid land containing a hostile population. This is a more effective deterrent than people arriving in Turkey then being helped to make it to the northern border. Not complicated....
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