Inquest on local biker :(

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A biker was sadly killed a few months ago in an RTA just up the road from me, and the inquest has just been reported in the local paper

It took place at this urban junction; an HGV was heading towards the junction (ie heading away from the camera), and turning right at the junction, where there is a right filter. The way the light sequence works is that the when facing light turns green, the right filter is on too, and all oncoming traffic is stopped. But after about 15 secs or so, the filter turns off, and the oncoming traffic gets the green light. According to the newspaper report, the biker (travelling towards the camera, straight over the junction), then entered the junction at "around 30 mph" and collided with the HGV who was making a right turn across his path 4.3 seconds after the filter had turned off.

IMHO it's a very dangerous traffic light configuration, and vehicles regularly jump that filter. But the part of the story that really gets my goat, and the reason I'm posting this, is the throwaway line at the end of the article, which just says that "police confirmed they will take no further action".

I mean, WT actual F?
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I see similar from left hand drive HGV drivers all the time. Favourites are looking at the left hand traffic light instead of right hand one when sitting in the right hand lane on a dual carriageway, meaning they go through a red light because they only see the green one of the left lane.

Then there’s the Bulgarian drivers favourite, roundabout roulette, where they approach at the wrong angle and can’t see the roundabout so just go for it hoping traffic on the roundabout won’t hit them.

Happens all the time around Dover.
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You want jumping of lights watch Dashcam Australia!

Round my way the usual thing is a twat in the left hand lane of a roundabout suddenly indicates right and cuts some poor fucker up.
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Err... no, Surrey

Classic would be the Scilly Isles roundabout - unnecessarily complicated Even just this morning some bird in the left lane to go all the way around to the right
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even in a car I approach junctions like some fucker's going to pull out on me regardless of whether my light is green. Plenty of fast bits of road to catch up time on safely.
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I've just had a look at the Google street view and the description. Weird! That's the complete reverse of all the traffic light configurations I've seen round my way and up town...

Normally it should be main lights go green and then, after some time, the filter light goes green while the oncoming traffic stops.

Now shoot me down if I'm wrong but in the normal situation you'd turn right if there's no incoming traffic unless you have a specific red light for your lane. A filter light is an indication that oncoming traffic should have stopped but you could turn right earlier if safe.

But this junction is arse about face. I'll assume the lorry moved up when the lights turned green. For whatever reason the lorry was on the junction when the filter light went off. In this situation the lorry could turn right if there's no oncoming traffic. 4.3 seconds or whatever is irrelevant as there's no separate red light for the right hand lane. There's a clear view of traffic approaching the junction and the driver should have easily seen the bike and assumed it was travelling at the speed limit of 30mph and thus not attempted the turn.

However, approaching a junction at the speed limit when you can see a dirty great lorry might cut across your path doesn't seem sensible to me. "My right of way" doesn't do you much good when you're dead
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