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PostPosted: 22:52 - 03 Sep 2019    Post subject: Another ouchy. Reply with quote

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I wasn't sure how to correctly clean the cut, so phoned NHS 111. Who very helpfully wouldn't tell me and told me to go to A&E. Rolling Eyes

A nurse phoned me back, and also told me to go to A&E.

We agreed I'd wash the cut out, and carefully bandage it, after I said I wasn't going to A&E. Also, I didn't agree that I'd go to A&E in the morning.

I thought A&E was bursting at the seams with timewasters, and non serious ailments, so I was puzzled that they seemed so keen on me going. I've had plenty of tetanus shots, I said I'd seek help if it looked like it was infected etc Confused
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you got suitable antiseptic stuff for cleaning it out with? Clean it out really thoroughly so there are no little bits of grit or dirt in the wound, blah blah blah, etc etc etc. Change the dressing frequently but if you can leave it uncovered when you're sitting around at home or such like then it will dry out and heal faster.

Going to your local minor injury unit should be quicker than A&E.

Dibs on your stuff when you die of the gangrene bad brexit aids.
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah there is a walk in centre open mornings I'll go there
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PostPosted: 03:28 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably some kind of insurance/H&S issue.

If they don't tell you to go to A&E, and then you die, they'll get the blame.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah there is a walk in centre open mornings I'll go there


Pretty awesome service. Properly bandaged up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

For future reference, I personally would clean that with large volumes of low pressure, clean, tepid/cool water. If I was being fussy, I'd then flush it again with sterile saline but franky, you're never going to get that wound fully sterile.

If it was me, I'd run the shower over it until it was clean. Perhaps a certain amount of picking bits out might also be necessary. I'd take a couple of Ibuprofen, elevate the limb and consider putting a cool (not cold) pack over it to keep the swelling down.

I wouldn't put anything else on it other than water/saline. No chemicals, potions, lotions or creams.

I'd then lightly tape a non-adherent dressing over the top to stop it rubbing on stuff while still allowing the air to get to it.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kudos for the authentic looking tears of blood on your tattoo tho.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I wouldn't put anything else on it other than water/saline. No chemicals, potions, lotions or creams.

I wouldn't put lotions or creams on, water or saline is good, but what's wrong with old-fashioned diluted Tom Cat's Pee?
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you not going to tell us how that happened, then?
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:

I wouldn't put lotions or creams on, water or saline is good, but what's wrong with old-fashioned diluted Tom Cat's Pee?


Nightmare to get hold of.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:

I wouldn't put lotions or creams on, water or saline is good, but what's wrong with old-fashioned diluted Tom Cat's Pee?

Nightmare to get hold of.

Hm. Tesco sell it!

There is the "problem" of the pong, though...
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
So you not going to tell us how that happened, then?


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PostPosted: 13:48 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dab of JB-Weld will sort that right out...

too soon?
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the things I use on wounds is Neosporin. It is an antiseptic and mild antibiotic wound cream. You can't buy it over the counter in the UK but it is easily available on the internet. I always have a tube of the stuff in my first aid kit.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

martin734 wrote:
Neosporin. It is an antiseptic and mild antibiotic wound cream. You can't buy it over the counter in the UK

Ah. One of the reasons why antibiotic-resistant germs are developing so fast.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Re: Another ouchy. Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
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Old woman with paper hanky from the deep depths of her dusty handbag and plenty of 'Nanny spit' will sort that out no bother.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:

Hm. Tesco sell it!

There is the "problem" of the pong, though...


Right, hadn't twigged what your acronym was.

In fairness, a phenol compound, dilute or not, is probably the last thing I'd put in an open wound.

If you are concerned about the cleanliness of the water you're using for irrigation, a few (3 or 4) DROPS of household bleach per litre of water is pretty effective without being madly cytotoxic (you cold drink it).

And I suppose that's a good metric. Should you put something in an open wound you wouldn't put in your mouth?
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

pour jd over it and down throat
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
thx1138 wrote:
Yeah there is a walk in centre open mornings I'll go there


Pretty awesome service. Properly bandaged up Very Happy

They're good places, a well kept secret that isn't a secret but people overlook because they just think A&E.

I presume 111 didn't suggest going to the walk in centre in the morning?

What did they say about your efforts to clean the wound?
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind you, last time i went to a walk-in centre I got a bollocking for a) Driving there and b) Not going straight to A&E.... so I drove to A&E.

That said, I reckon I was seen pretty quickly because I'd already been triaged and sent there by a doctor.

Had a broken shoulder as it turned out. I thought it was just a soft tissue injury.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
(TCP) In fairness, a phenol compound, dilute or not, is probably the last thing I'd put in an open wound.

If you are concerned about the cleanliness of the water you're using for irrigation, a few (3 or 4) DROPS of household bleach per litre of water is pretty effective without being madly cytotoxic (you cold drink it).

TCP is supposed to be used for things like that. I am surprised you haven't heard of it (would you *really* think I'd recommend putting cat's urine on wounds???) and don't know about it, after all it's been in wide use since WWI.

stinkwheel wrote:
And I suppose that's a good metric. Should you put something in an open wound you wouldn't put in your mouth?

FGS, you can gargle with the stuff!

https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/3917/smpc
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
(TCP) In fairness, a phenol compound, dilute or not, is probably the last thing I'd put in an open wound.

TCP is supposed to be used for things like that. I am surprised you haven't heard of it (would you *really* think I'd recommend putting cat's urine on wounds???)

Do you *really* think cat's urine is a phenol compound? Laughing

BTW the Tom Cat thing went right over my head too - is that really a thing?
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

They're good places, a well kept secret that isn't a secret but people overlook because they just think A&E.

I presume 111 didn't suggest going to the walk in centre in the morning?

What did they say about your efforts to clean the wound?


Pretty good job they said, bandaging not so much I rinsed it with shower head water set it to lukevwarm for about ten mins. They put a bright light on it, and had close look and cleaned it up some more with saline. But I showed them the pic I took last night.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see where he's coming from. TCP has an all pervasive reek about it which is about a pleasant as cat piss.

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TCP is supposed to be used for things like that. I am surprised you haven't heard of it (would you *really* think I'd recommend putting cat's urine on wounds???) and don't know about it, after all it's been in wide use since WWI


I thought you were just being odd/ironic.

However, they also used to put mercury salts, ticture of iodine and neat sulphonamide powder on wounds in WW1 too. I wouldn't do that either.

Just because a lot of people do something, doesn't mean it's a good idea. I don't even use hibiscrub on woulds any more, just lots and lots of flushing. You just want to be removing contamination but causing a minimum of damage to the remaining cells so it's best not to use anything cytotoxic. I'm having a hard time convincing my nurses not to bung surgical scrub in open wounds though.

As far as I'm concerned, TCP has no place in modern medicine, it's a relic of the past (it MIGHT be just about ok for skin prep in an emergency, but there are better things). I'd take the Pepsi challenge on wound healing any day. A bottle of TCP against a (large) bottle of saline.

You could probably gargle genuine cats piss too without taking a great deal of harm. I would no more do that than gargle TCP though.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 04 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="stinkwheel"]Just because a lot of people do something, doesn't mean it's a good idea/quote]
Oh well, you'd better send a letter of complaint to the manufacturers (various) and tell them how bad their stuff is and how chuffin' dangerous it is. Pffffffffffffft.
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