Rant about laws on young riders

[willj002]

Ok, I'll start off by saying that I am a young, inexperienced (bit of a twat) rider. I completely welcome other peoples views.

I had a stupid fall this evening (speeds for the dry into a wet roundabout) and it has got me rather annoyed at the whole licencing system at the moment. I think the fact we have to stay on a small cc bike for two years is making me a worse rider. Because I can't get up to a high maximum speed I feel like I have to be a complete knob and maximise my speed everywhere else, meaning I'm taking corners too fast, trying to be 1mph faster in the bends, so I save the time that I'm dawdling on the straights.

In all honesty it is putting me off biking... maybe this was the government's plan all along

What are your thoughts?
Also, sub-question: How many times have you guys fallen off?

[Skudd]

I read somewhere that the difference between a Master and a Novice is that a Master has failed more times than a Novice has tried.
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The other thing about a Master, is that said mastery is predicated on not smearing themselves across the tarmac whilst riding like a bell-end before having reached it.

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[Pjay]

This has to be a joke?
So he falls off his tiddler going too fast and thinks the answer is more speed?

The answer my friend is to learn how to take a bend properly. I guarantee there are people here on this site that can take your bike around the bend you came off, faster than you took it when your arse gave in.
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[MarJay]

[P.]

The fault is your own. Not the bike. I rode my 125 2 up through Camber near me and was with a 650/750 and some other 125s... I was well ahead of them.

I didn't crash, it was pitch black and damp, it's your fault.

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If you're mastering falling off on slow bikes, things will hurt a lot more on much larger, heavier bikes in potentially quicker accidents.

Learn to ride to the conditions before blaming the bike.

I came off a couple of times on a 50cc bike, twice on a 750cc on the road and more times than I care to remember on my 250cc 2T race bike. If you need to ride to the max everywhere, get into club racing.
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[ThatDippyTwat]

As said, This is on you. Own it, learn from it and ride to the conditions. The more experienced you get, hopefully, the better you'll learn to read the road.

I've had one off in my time on road bikes, and that was a mud slick on the exit of a blind corner. Picked it up, rode off, as I saw it coming, and while I coudn't avoid it, I could minimise it. I've had metric fucktons of sky>ground>sky>ground moments on crossers, so as said, if you really can't reign it in on the road, take it to a track. I'm older now, and don't ride like a total fuckwit any more, but that's how I got it out of my system in my teens/twenties.
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[doggone]

Followed a bike with L plates yesterday, he/she was following cars doing about 50 - leaving a space to bumper barely enough for 30mph zone, then started to overtake at a staggered junction with cars itching to creep out from both sides as visibility is limited.

While no normal person would in any way intervene is it reasonable to offer advice if you happened to stop near them later?

[dynax]

I've only had one off and that was 30 years ago and hit a patch of diesel going round a roundabout, luckily i slid along the road with bike until i hit the kerb picked myself and the bike up and carried on
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[bhinso]

I do have to agree that the laws seem a bit biased against young riders, when there are no such restrictions on 17 year old car drivers (who have enough £££).

Why do I think this is bad? Because it's encouraging people to just stay on Loser plates and not doing the test. In my opinion the difference between CBT level (multiple re-do's included) and Test level can be measured in light years. For the safety of them and others, we should be encouraging the yoof to do the test.

[1198]

Seems like someone can’t take responsibility for their own actions and look to blame someone else!
You went too fast for the conditions. The size of the bike makes no difference, you screwed up. Face it!
You’re not the first and doubt you’ll be the last!

[Nobby the Bastard]

I do subscribe to the principle that big bikes *can* be safer than smaller capacity bikes because you can accellerate quicker so you don't tend to hustle round corners quite so much to maintain speed.

On the other hand, OP is clearly a cock who wasn't taking into account road conditions so meh.
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[owl]

tl;dr act like a knob on a small bike, think a bigger faster bike will make you act like less of a knob.


riiiiight.
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[Grubscrew]

Stick with the bike, slow down a bit a junctions you wish to take, look well ahead at potential hazards perhaps watch a few tutorials, learn the etiquette of the road.
You’ll soon get fed up with getting hurt. Before long you’ll be on a 125, so it’s either ride like a fool ....but not for long, or enjoy being a good rider. Your choice.
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[dynax]

Carry on as you are the Grim Reaper loves people like you, easy pickings
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[dynax]

I think the age should be reduced, at 14 you can ride a 50cc moped but you have to do a theory test as well as the cbt, but if you accumulate 6 points you will be disqualified from riding/driving any vehicle for life, then at 16 you must pass a test to continue to ride 50cc but without L plates, from 17 as they are at present, the reason for allowing to ride at 14 is for them to accept responsibility for their own actions and repercussions for unacceptible behaviour, but here is the clincher their ability to hold a licence from 14 is dependent on their school grades and how they conduct themselves whilst in full time education, and any cautions or criminal behavior will count as points against their licence.
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