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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 08 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A whole two pages off topic, a new low!


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Maybe all you captains of industry should create a thread specifically for all your high finance discussions. Just saying Very Happy


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PostPosted: 12:59 - 10 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan Ashworth

https://order-order.com/2019/12/10/ashworth-civil-service-machine-will-move-quickly-safeguard-national-security-corbyn/

https://order-order.com/2019/12/10/ashworth-flounders-trying-explain-guido-recording/
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 10 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was very funny. I like Ashworth though he comes across as calm and well balanced. I would lay a bet on him having a good shot at the Labour leadership after Corbyn.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corbyn gone, now McDonnell gone.

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/john-mcdonnell-to-quit-frontline-politics-following-labour-defeat-11364418514346

It just needs the Abbopotamus to go and maybe, just maybe Labour could become a credible opposition.

HOWEVER Laughing

Down near the bottom of the above article is a little gem, something to make anyone who's on the right side of politics laugh his little cotton socks off. Something that will keep Labour in the sh1t for the foreseeable if it come to pass.

Positioning in the race to become the next Labour leader has already started, with ardent Remainer David Lammy confirming he was considering putting his name forward.

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PostPosted: 18:21 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Positioning in the race to become the next Labour leader has already started, with ardent Remainer David Lammy confirming he was considering putting his name forward.


Imagine: Lammy as leader with Abbot as Shadow Chancellor Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lammy is just getting the ball rolling. I rekon there will be trickle of names then a flood then back to a few realistic contenders. It will be interesting where on the Blair-Lenin spectrum they will sit.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:28 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Positioning in the race to become the next Labour leader has already started, with ardent Remainer David Lammy confirming he was considering putting his name forward.


Imagine: Lammy as leader with Abbot as Shadow Chancellor Shocked


I'd go to Scotland and vote for independence.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd go to Scotland and vote for independence.


Oh that's all we need, another pensioner Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 14 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
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I'd go to Scotland and vote for independence.


Oh that's all we need, another pensioner Shocked


Oh dear, an ageist. What a sad state the world has come to when you aren't wanted because you are old.

I'm hurt, hurt I say. Oh goodbye cruel world.

Nah, bollox, I'm definitely coming up there if you get independence. I'd love some cute sweaty sock lassie to wipe my ass for me in my dotage. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Positioning in the race to become the next Labour leader has already started, with ardent Remainer David Lammy confirming he was considering putting his name forward.

Laughing


I called this months ago.

The main point going for him being that he hates white people.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Positioning in the race to become the next Labour leader has already started, with ardent Remainer David Lammy confirming he was considering putting his name forward.

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I called this months ago.

The main point going for him being that he hates white people.


Well that is fair enough as I have a large dose of dislike for the black people embraced by Labour in their multicultural dream. Abbott, Lammy and that crooked lawyer bitch from Peterborough whose name I can't pronounce, let alone spell.

One gone, one political history (hopefully) and one that has the biggest case of foot in mouth disease after Diane.

As Alf Garnet would have said 'They need a better class of d̶a̶r̶k̶i̶e̶ people of colour' Whistle Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peterborough? Oh you mean the one who got an anti-Brexit bill voted down whilst still on a tag?

As soon as Lammy bawwed off about Comic Relief being a big Africa diss, and 'We don't need any White Saviours' I thought I'd see him as a future Labour leader.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Peterborough? Oh you mean the one who got an anti-Brexit bill voted down whilst still on a tag?

As soon as Lammy bawwed off about Comic Relief being a big Africa diss, and 'We don't need any White Saviours' I thought I'd see him as a future Labour leader.


Honestly, are they that stupid? I cannot see it after the ridicule Abbott went through and as much as I dislike her, she's better by a long way than Lammy.

I can't see many taking to him at all.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I called this months ago.

The main point going for him being that he hates white people.


And he's embarrassingly thick. That clip of him whining about never seeing any police on the street, when there's a copper right behind him is hilarious.


Whatever his faults he can't be that thick, he was at Harvard and was a practising barrister although sometimes you would struggle to believe it.

I reckon he knows exactly what he is doing and a lot is an act playing the part of the Black Champion that the thickest of any gang members can connect with.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Labour had one shot at populism, and that was with Corbyn. He did pretty well in 2017 but this year was clearly the end of it.

If they choose another such character, or any token minority/female/disabled(?) who isn't actually up to the job, then they will be toast for years to come.

Given the way the election went, and the way that public opinion seems to be focused overall, I think it's pretty clear that the only thing that can save Labour is another Tony Blair character. I don't mean exactly like him, but a bog standard MP in a suit who speaks sensibly, with no shadowy past, and comes cross as "centrist but on Labour's terms",

Lammy, no way.

I say this as a raging diehard Corbynista lefty. I want Labour to now be led by a boring "out of touch" garden variety MP who the public can get to know and warm up to over the next 5 years. I think Brexit furore is past its zenith, and with that issue leaving the hysterical public eye there will be a quick return to a desire for normal, non-populist politics. I hope.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Labour had one shot at populism, and that was with Corbyn. He did pretty well in 2017 but this year was clearly the end of it.

If they choose another such character, or any token minority/female/disabled(?) who isn't actually up to the job, then they will be toast for years to come.

Given the way the election went, and the way that public opinion seems to be focused overall, I think it's pretty clear that the only thing that can save Labour is another Tony Blair character. I don't mean exactly like him, but a bog standard MP in a suit who speaks sensibly, with no shadowy past, and comes cross as "centrist but on Labour's terms",

Lammy, no way.

I say this as a raging diehard Corbynista lefty. I want Labour to now be led by a boring "out of touch" garden variety MP who the public can get to know and warm up to over the next 5 years. I think Brexit furore is past its zenith, and with that issue leaving the hysterical public eye there will be a quick return to a desire for normal, non-populist politics. I hope.


I rekon they will go Northern. Corbyn did fall a bit into the London metropolitan trap. Labour will be stupid if they ignore the new interest in leftist politics that made Corbyn interesting in the first place though.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 16 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:

If they choose another such character, or any token minority/female/disabled(?) who isn't actually up to the job, then they will be toast for years to come.



Totally agree with the above.

That is something I really really hate. The 'OK we haven't had enough Women/Disabled/Blacks in our government'. While I understand the premise, don't these stupid twats understand having 'The best person for the job' makes a much more electable candidate.

I honestly do not give a sh1t what our next Prime Minster is, Woman, black, Lesbian or gay or what as long as they are a good choice with good ideas and hopefully a bit of charisma.

However choosing someone just because they shag the same sex or have any skin colour but white because of a PC tick box regime is not a credible way of choosing a potential leader of a country. Sadly though I suspect the left/PC brigade will get their way and some totally inappropriate person will be chosen.

And I don't want that. I want a credible opposition to keep the incumbents under some sort of rein.

Ah well, never thought I'd be telling Labour how to get their mojo back. Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 17 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, gratifying as it is to see insane manifestos consigned to the shredder of history even I feel it's swung too far the other way.

Boris not only has a resounding majority he also kicked out the worst trouble makers from his own party before the election. The problem is that anything he wants is going to get whipped through. Poll Tax anyone? Shocked

The only hope for the Labour Party is to admit that old 20th Century socialism is dead and has been for almost 40 years. The world has moved on, it's time they did too.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 17 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ This. Not Poll Tax but things such as fox hunting and many other unpopular things will now be slipped through while everyone stares at Brexit. It's my biggest fear with them getting to power.

In my borough we went Tory. Totally unbelievable but we actually did it. The Tory bloke said something in his speech - 'thank you for lending me your vote' which means that he knows he'll soon be out once Brext is sorted and if he fails to deliver to us up here on local issues. The pressure is now on for him to perform his duties.

LBC last night had someone from Labour (I missed who because only just switched it on) and still they were spouting those denials it was Brexit that lost them the job. She also began mentioning bringing in more blacks to the front bench and so on. The party is clueless. The party is doing everything wrong in selections. Labour has become so separated from not just the people but also real life that they will never get into power. They're not listening to people on the ground.
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