How would you vote in a general election tomorrow?

[Lord Percy]

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So, in essence, "better the devil you know" that worked out really well for Clinton - a business man with (clearly) no political experience laughing all the way to the bank White House.

Amusing how Trump is playing the Left like a fiddle over the Biden/Ukraine affair at the moment

When it comes to experience of actually running the country?

That's just the Tories. The Lib-Dems from the coalition days all got culled. Labour might be waiting outside the brewery with the keys but they've quite forgotten the ABV of the beer inside.
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Your argument is like saying Joe Public would make better politicians because we all tell the truth, are able to listen to constituents, field the bullshit and not be influenced by our own self interest.

1. Everybody's truth is different so to somebody we would always be lying.

2. Very few people have the patience to listen to others whining for more than a few minutes, never mind 5 years.

3. None of us really know enough about the 'bigger picture' to be able to discern what is bullshit and what isn't, despite what we read on the internet.

4. We are all influenced by our own self interest.

Also, you are assuming that Farage's filtering system for candidates is as sophisticated as the more established parties and that we won't simply end up with a succession of Brexit Party MPs getting exposed for historic wrong-doings and a series of destabilising expulsions/bye-elections as a result.

To think that a bunch of people with no experience and worst of all, no effective support mechanism (admittedly plus Ann Widdecombe...) can magically run Government departments, negotiate trade deals with superpowers, decide how much land we should be allocated in the long term for housing, steer multi-billion pound capital projects etc is a tad far fetched., even for you
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[Howling Terror]

It's a tricky one.


Which lesser evil do I choose.
Which self-serving scumbag.

Do I go tactical or (was going to say abstain) vote for say The Greens.

I did vote to stay in Europe but don't want democracy to be ignored.

However, people voted on something without knowing any of the ramifications. Many voted just to get the immigrants out which if you look at the NHS for example would cause big trouble, as it does for seasonal farm workers. Some people didn't know that the immigrants who worked also paid tax just like the indigenous (if there is such a thing as indigenous I suspect most on here have a family history with 'foreign' blood in it.
None of the parties can work together for the good, they're interested in putting each other down.

What I don't want is extremism either left or right and at the moment we have an unelected PM with a hard left opposition leader. Neither of which have support from their members.
The conservatives booted out some half decent MPs. Labour haven't faired much better.

The electorate may not bother to turn out and I don't blame them.

The worry is the echo-chambers are getting bigger and that could lead us to somebody like a hard right getting in.

Diversity has always made is better and that means having people in with views that may differ from me.
No good if I surround myself with head nodders.

Back to the immigration thing; It was too many too quickly. No time for people to get used to and understand and use their empathy. Hence the knee-jerk reaction.

Being in a bubble is asking for trouble.

Peace and Love and cake.
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As far as I can make out, the Brexit Party's policies are thus:

The Brexit Party movement wants to bring Political Reform to the UK which include:-​
Changing the electoral system to ensure Parliament is more representative of the people.
Challenging the power of the unelected House of Lords.
Cleaning up the easily abused system of postal votes on demand.
Making the civil service serve the public.
Reforming the BBC TV licence fee.​

We also feel it’s time to invest in the following:-
Save the 39 billion ransom demanded by the EU; that’s our money to invest as we see fit.
Scrap the multi-billion pounds HS2 vanity project.
Reduce and redirect the foreign aid budget.​

We can give Britain an extra £200 billion to:-​
Invest in growth in our regions.
Rebuild the transport system outside London.
Invest in faster, cheaper broadband for everybody.
Ensure there is free wi-fi on every train and bus outside London.
Take control of our fishing waters and revive coastal communities.
Remove business rates for new high street businesses outside London.
Cancel the interest on student loans.​

This is a list of 'nice' things designed to attract non-London votes, old folk who watch Countdown and students, rather than the nitty-gritty. It doesn't mention how the other 800 billion p.a. we currently spent on services, defence etc will be allocated. Are we to assume that the status quo will be maintained in all other areas?
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[Pete.]

I'm with Monty Brewster on this one. None of the leaderss seem to have conducted themselves with any kind of dignity.
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