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Which party gets your vote? |
Labour |
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15% |
[ 17 ] |
Conservatives |
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32% |
[ 36 ] |
Liberal Democrats |
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13% |
[ 15 ] |
Brexit Party |
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27% |
[ 31 ] |
SNP |
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5% |
[ 6 ] |
Green |
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1% |
[ 2 ] |
Change |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
Plaid Cymru |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
DUP |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
Independent |
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1% |
[ 2 ] |
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Posted: 15:19 - 07 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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So I will ask again but using slightly different words - what makes coalition with TBP more probable that any of the other Parties?
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Posted: 15:33 - 07 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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So I will ask again but using slightly different words - what makes coalition with TBP more probable that any of the other Parties?
Sling all the insults you like sugar-tits, but this doesn't alter the fact that you won't answer the question because the answer isn't what you like to admit |
We've been through this goldfish brain. The Tories are giving the facade of leaving the EU. Only one other party is sitting firmly on that side of the fence. This GE is all about Brexit. If they need a coalition, there is only 1 option open to them.
The Tories would have no viable alternative unless you're daft enough to believe they'd get in bed with Swinson or Corbyn, or more that either of those would have the bare faced cheek to drop their stance on Brexit, just to get into the coalition.
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Posted: 15:36 - 07 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Let me help you out. You are supposed to say that what makes TBP suitable for coalition is because it is a 'non-political' political party, whereas the others are all 'political' political parties.
You are then supposed to say that TBP has no political agenda other than Brexit.
I then counter with the question 'so what about its manifesto - doesn't that contain views which can be construed as 'political'?'
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Posted: 15:48 - 07 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Haven't you got public services to do?
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The problem is that you won't take an answer if it's not the one you want.
I've explained countless times that the Brexit launch campaign detailed their manifesto, but you're still too ignorant to bother listening to it.
I've told you several times on here that their main campaign centres around political reform. You ignore this because it doesn't fit your tedious pre-programmed left wing agenda of believing TBP are a single issue right wing party. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 16:15 - 07 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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If the campaign centres around political reform, surely the TBP are the last Party the Tories would want to enter into coalition with. Your arguments just don't stack up.
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Oh how lovely! Let's sweep away the old guard and bring in some fresh ideas
Except that can only happen in two ways: bloody revolution or proportional representation. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Diggs wrote: | If the campaign centres around political reform, surely the TBP are the last Party the Tories would want to enter into coalition with. Your arguments just don't stack up. |
As things stand, nobody seems to want to work with the Tories. They're neither in nor out of the EU really, so it's all irrelevant toss.
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I bet on UKIP once. I don't often go down the bookies but I had a "feeling" (ooh err!) Not the last election, the one before that. I would have made an absolute fortune if they'd got 2 or more but I think I got about £80 back in the end
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I can't vote for anyone other than TBP. Boris treaty is way too risky. I don't believe the EU can be trusted. If I'm right, we'd be signing up to a fate worse than remain, and I haven't seen anything from the EU to give me confidence that I'm wrong. If TBP can't get us out, no one else is going to. Brexit is already dead. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Ste wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | I can't vote for anyone other than TBP. ... Brexit is already dead. |
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I can't vote Tory, because the treaty is disastrous. To say you are voting tactically if you vote for the Tories is bullshit - it's not a game, the treaty means vassalage. Everyone else is a vote to remain, which I also can't do. What real option is there for someone who wants us out of the EU?
Some people will vote LesbianDem., some Green etc, knowing full well they haven't a hope.
The alternative is to not bother to get out of bed on 12th Dec. Time for the youngsters to fuck up their own fate. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I'm in the '' can't accept Johnsons deal'' group with all the ambiguity of the talk about an expected close relationship on trade/tax/legislation with Europe.
But I am torn, as I want TBP to take us out on WTO terms with a clean break and new start for the UK, (unless Scotland decide to fuck off, here's hoping!).
But is TBP likely to cause a split parliament, and prevent any Brexit worth having? They won't work in a coellition government, and seem to be having problems in the party and maybe with their funding etc.
Conservative Brexit sucks but I don't think it's written into law that if transition negotiations fail which they will, that we can't come out WTO when it breaks down.
I really don't see Labour anywhere in this election, as anyone that's not pro leave I personally think will vote for the party/s that are happy to scrap Brexit despite going against the will of the public.
Who's going to vote for a party that has no clear position and is going to attempt to negotiate an EU exit, that gives us nothing except no say in our future. Not only that a party that'll spend 6-12months prolonging this shit by negotiating a new crap deal if the EU let's them, but then campaigning against it in a new referendum. This sounds like a strategy thought up by people with severe brain damage, and to only appeal to voters with equally severe brain damage. |
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Conservative Brexit sucks but I don't think it's written into law that if transition negotiations fail which they will, that we can't come out WTO when it breaks down. |
No, they won't. We will fall into line with all that the EU demand. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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stevo as b4 wrote: |
Conservative Brexit sucks but I don't think it's written into law that if transition negotiations fail which they will, that we can't come out WTO when it breaks down.
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I'm not too sure about that. Forget the "Withdrawal Agreement", the problem is the Political Declaration which the EU have attached to it. I believe this is legally binding.
It's this Political Declaration that hides all the shitty stuff, like even after us "leaving", they still have access to our waters, we are still bound to their close ties for rules and regulation and have added the "level playing field" clause, which basically makes Brexit worthless as we can't agree a deal with a RoW country on better terms than the EU has, which for most top economies is feck all and WTO. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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