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Fear not, I'm not in the POLITE force.
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The bike I'm looking at isn't a BMW and looks nothing like a typical police bike. Having said that it is white and blue no chequer/batenberg or reflective vinyl though |
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Post a link to the bike to get the most helpful replies. |
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Most bikes that go to auction these days have been canabalised to keep operational bikes going.
Back in the day, Police bikes were decommisioned at between 70 and 100,000 miles, but had been serviced every month regardless by the forces own in house workshops.
We knew who would be working on our vehicles and the workshop guys ensured that our bikes and cars were in tip top order.
Cars and bikes were also personal issue, so I used to ensure that my bike was put right as soon as something seemed amiss.
Now, bikes and cars are used by all and sundry (providing they have the right qualification). They are serviced and repaired by outside contractors who don't care as they get paid and it is difficult to prove if they have or have not doen the job properly (other than the obvious) and by the time they are decommisioned, they have been run into the ground.
I have brought an ex job car once, and that was my issue Ford Granada 2.8i which I had from new, I did 120,000 miles in it, and after being decommisioned, I purchased it at auction for just over £1K I did another 100,000 miles in it. I was lucky.
My old job bike (BMW) was auctioned off. When I changed to my new bike, the old bike was running perfectly. It was just the mileage that deemed it to be retired.
By the time it got to auction, the asking price was more than the civillian equivelant, the engine sounded like a tractor and the bodywork was wrecked (which is not how it left me)
Plain bikes can be a better option, but not much better as they have been often ridden harder and are also used by non traffic (but trained plain clothes bods) for surveillance and the like.
Would I buy an ex job bike? No, unless you can get it for peanuts and you don't mind spending time and money on it to get it back to a reasonable spec and quality.
There is one advantage. All the uniform bikes come with uprated electrics and alternators because of the additional electrical load, which of course does not exist when it is decommisioned. ____________________ It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next |
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T.C wrote: | Most bikes that go to auction these days have been canabalised to keep operational bikes going.
Back in the day, Police bikes were decommisioned at between 70 and 100,000 miles, but had been serviced every month regardless by the forces own in house workshops.
We knew who would be working on our vehicles and the workshop guys ensured that our bikes and cars were in tip top order.
Cars and bikes were also personal issue, so I used to ensure that my bike was put right as soon as something seemed amiss.
Now, bikes and cars are used by all and sundry (providing they have the right qualification). They are serviced and repaired by outside contractors who don't care as they get paid and it is difficult to prove if they have or have not doen the job properly (other than the obvious) and by the time they are decommisioned, they have been run into the ground.
I have brought an ex job car once, and that was my issue Ford Granada 2.8i which I had from new, I did 120,000 miles in it, and after being decommisioned, I purchased it at auction for just over £1K I did another 100,000 miles in it. I was lucky.
My old job bike (BMW) was auctioned off. When I changed to my new bike, the old bike was running perfectly. It was just the mileage that deemed it to be retired.
By the time it got to auction, the asking price was more than the civillian equivelant, the engine sounded like a tractor and the bodywork was wrecked (which is not how it left me)
Plain bikes can be a better option, but not much better as they have been often ridden harder and are also used by non traffic (but trained plain clothes bods) for surveillance and the like.
Would I buy an ex job bike? No, unless you can get it for peanuts and you don't mind spending time and money on it to get it back to a reasonable spec and quality.
There is one advantage. All the uniform bikes come with uprated electrics and alternators because of the additional electrical load, which of course does not exist when it is decommisioned. |
Yeah... but just the Earl Mountbattenburg livery and the Blues with the Twos would come in handy. No? ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Thanks for all your input guys.
Was actually a bit reluctant to publish too much info about it or give a link in case it does turn out to be bargain of the century and one of you kind contributors beat me to it LOL!
Don't suppose it matters...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201909192387523
So I've taken onboard everything everyone has said. I'd still be interested to go look at it close up and inspect it for holes in the body work, maybe remove the seat and have a long hard stare at the wiring under there, round by the back lights and up by the yoke under the handlebars etc... maybe sit on it or take it for a ride to see how she runs. Other than what has already been said, looking at this bike specifically any comments or recommendations anyone can give about this particular advert please?
Much love!
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Ste wrote: | If cruising around in a low gear then the revs will be high and gives the engine a hard life.
If cruising around in a high gear then the revs will be low and gives the engine an easy life.
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No, if cruising around in a high gear works for you then that's fine. Your wants and needs when riding around are different to those of the police. |
Sorry blond moment there. I was getting low gear confused with low revs. Yes of course I understand that if the gear is lower then the revs will be higher. That makes more sense now as lower gears / higher revs will clearly give the engine a harder life. I thought stinkwheel was saying they train police riders to ride in much lower REVS than most people
stinkwheel wrote: | Shite quality pictures for someone whos business is selling vehicles over the internet. It's almost like someone has run a blur filter over them... |
Interestingly, from what I can make out, it's a Subaru CAR dealership. I think they've only taken this in part-ex and don't really get involved in selling bikes. Another reason why it could be priced low as it's a genuine 'priced to clear' (I cringe when I hear myself say that as it's a generic phrase you'll find in most trader adverts but could well be true in this case). |
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Interestingly, from what I can make out, it's a Subaru CAR dealership. I think they've only taken this in part-ex and don't really get involved in selling bikes. Another reason why it could be priced low as it's a genuine 'priced to clear' (I cringe when I hear myself say that as it's a generic phrase you'll find in most trader adverts but could well be true in this case). |
It's unusual they are selling it at any price, car dealers normally know little or nothing about bikes and consider them a liability.
In nearly 40 years of being in the car game, I think I've taken 3 bikes in part exchange, always because the seller was desperate to get rid, or I assume they were, because I kicked them right in the nethers on price.
As a general rule, they would have got that underwritten by a trade buyer, which would ring alarm bells for me because underwriters normally only back out if the thing is not as described. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 206 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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