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stinkwheel wrote: | Easy-X wrote: |
That's an original Euro-spec brake lamp. |
Good god, it is too.
I bet ze-Germans are responsible for that hideous monstrosity. There will be some historic TUV directive dictating the minimum height for a numberplate/tail light that could only look normal on a BMW.
If it was me, I'd flog it to a rabid completionist restorer and fit a nice low-profile, rubber mounted enduro-style tail light and plate bracket. I suppose it depends how authentic you want it to be though.
The counter argument is it has a brake light fitted and it's behind you and therefore can't be seen while riding but can most definitely be seen by following traffic, which I suppose is the point. |
Something like this?
https://www.feked.com/images/magictoolbox_cache/8c95d73fec130487c102a73bf1ab42ce/3/7/37605/selector80x0/3888222372/IMG_1679.jpg
https://www.feked.com/rear-tail-light-assembly-yamaha-ty125-175-250-models-universal-fit.html
A purist would say I'd already ruined it with the seat, tank and exhaust. Having said that the aforementioned replacement is at least period correct. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Not so bad with the single seat + rear rack option but good shout though, I can easily re-route if I get hold of one of those trials brake lights.
I'm looking at the moment for a number plate mount. The trials ones are just big rubber flaps. I did find a US version of "feked" that had one but it was $60 or so Might have to make one. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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So I've deliberately held off on diving into the bike until the weather was perfect: the sort of hot, sunny day where you regret working outside for any length of time
Tail Tidy. Along with "Slip-On" probably the most common mods anyone does to a bike. Certainly never thought I'd be doing either of those to an old '70s bike but hey-ho
So this is what we have:
https://i.imgur.com/nOtFP88.jpg?1
As mentioned previously, a bone-stock, Euro-spec tail light and number plate arrangement. Including that wire.
Ah! Lovely: my mate (who previously painted the fenders black) didn't leave the spot underneath:
https://i.imgur.com/hAQ44ND.jpg?1
Drill some holes for the new light, bonus! If one were to put the old arrangement back it would totally cover the holes
https://i.imgur.com/E4F1DWc.jpg?1
Looking better already:
https://i.imgur.com/WvCS26i.jpg?1
It was at this point I paused to try and work out which wire was which. And then did a "while you're down there..." This had been nagging at me a while:
https://i.imgur.com/pMpIvJ0.jpg?1
Like an idiot for some reason I'd run the loom between the frame and the exhaust
While half the back-end wiring was out, may as well do a proper job:
https://i.imgur.com/F8j3sDu.jpg?1
Of course, the new lamp just had to have the wrong sized bullet connectors so had to crimp some new ones on:
https://i.imgur.com/b1hSbia.jpg?2
Now for a little bodgery for the number plate:
https://i.imgur.com/Avnyqd0.jpg?1
I have some tin cable tidy stuff, a roll of holes, if you will. It's not sturdy stuff even under tension but it'll do for now. I'll get one of those smaller style number plates made up and make some permanent brackets.
Rubber bung in the cable hole, original dome-nuts still serve a function; turned out well, if I may be so bold
Now the indicators look a bit lanky Have have a different style in the spares box:
https://i.imgur.com/zrzNr3G.jpg?1
The chrome's starting to peel in places but they'd be passable. Roughly these would lose about half a lens diameter. Not sure whether it's worth the effort
Anyhoo, the finished article (for now!)
https://i.imgur.com/QpPcaHj.jpg?1
A few other minor things. Fitted side reflectors mainly as there was a space on the frame for them:
https://i.imgur.com/Nw968DT.jpg?1
And got some wingnuts for rear seat mounts as occasionally I'll need to top up the oil or check the battery:
https://i.imgur.com/B5cCS0Y.jpg?1
Happy side effect: seat seems to line up better!
https://i.imgur.com/JIQ7umb.jpg?1
Note the Gorilla tape on top of the oil tank. The petrol tank is a wee bit bigger than the original and there's not much clearance so that's just a bodge to slow down any hole being ground into the tank
Finally, as mentioned on Mr. sickpup's thread, I spotted this little area of "corrosion-catching"
https://i.imgur.com/OJV3sF8.jpg?1
Little squirt of Dinitrol
Just some more carb fettling left. Can be a big time-sink so maybe tomorrow ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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If you've seen my posts elsewhere tinkering with the carb didn't take as long as I thought it would.
The air screw was about 1 3/4 turns out. Specs on the carb say 1 1/2 to 3 is the working range. Past 3 the screw isn't really letting more air in so that says too rich. I tried the next size up on pilot jet and now the screw is at 2 1/2 which hints at heading towards too rich. The rule of thumb being "better too rich than too lean" I think it's at the ideal spot.
I was also getting rev hangs around 4k. "Oh noes! Main crank case seal!" thankfully not, I tried the largest main jet I have in my assortment and it runs fine now. I've ordered up some larger jets. Short of a dyno I shall try going up jet sizes till the performance suffers and then go one jet down. Later on that one.
And then, just as I was enjoying the thing the clutch cable went Hindsight is a wonderful thing and now I look at the cable it's obviously crap quality. Here's the original (the adjuster is rusted to f*ck and the cable barely moves) above and the busted replacement below:
https://i.imgur.com/owfhQsy.jpg?2
Oh dear, so not even the correct length! That actually doesn't matter too much as it's the available cable travel that's important. Let's line up one end:
https://i.imgur.com/Bt4SHMO.jpg?1
...and then look at the other:
https://i.imgur.com/F11rq7f.jpg?2
Dammit, way out. I was thinking I had a problem with the clutch given I had all the adjusters wound all the way out but obviously not.
At this point I could have bought a cable from a decent source (~£15 from Yambits) and left it at that but given the age of the bike it's still a bit pot luck as to quality. All due respect to Yambits but not everything they sell is 100% matching the OEM parts.
Nope, I got an end of the right size (£2) and whacked on the flux and lead solder:
https://i.imgur.com/NrC8ZY0.jpg?2
I fully expect the clutch end will give next but one step at a time. At least the travel matches now ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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If you've read elsewhere I suspect an air leak (lean condition) and prime suspect is the magneto side crank seal. Let's take a look...
https://i.imgur.com/msAaRgC.jpg?1
A slight cough of the impact wrench (only on no.1 setting) and that's the main nut off:
https://i.imgur.com/NS2OjdG.jpg?1
With the right tools this should be a trivial job:
https://i.imgur.com/R8zihWO.jpg?1
BTW reverse thread on the outside, normal thread on the inside of this extractor. I did fish about looking for a 22mm spanner but in the end I just used a pipe wrench - it came off without too much effort. Much harder is to lift the flywheel off 'cos of the magnets
Bit grubby, some surface rust but really not bad for >30yo:
https://i.imgur.com/4jlf6hR.jpg?1
Again, coils, points, condenser - in a lot better condition than I expected:
https://i.imgur.com/kkXAI1f.jpg?1
I did try a JIS screwdriver but no go. Impact wrench again but this time on setting no.2, eeek!
And here's the old seal:
https://i.imgur.com/BOIjiiw.jpg?1
Took a bit of wrestling to get it out. I was careful not to prise against the soft alloy of the crank case. Although not completely shot the out rubber had pretty much disintegrated on the air side. The interior side has the spring lip; intact but the seal is definitely old so here's hoping this is the source of the air leak.
Replacement tapped in with the help of a large socket from my impact wrench's set:
https://i.imgur.com/uByAJgZ.jpg?1
Bit of a clean-up and, well the assembly photo's would just be the same Obviously take care with the woodruff key
Few more bits to do tomorrow and then we'll see how it runs.
<addendum> oh, and I gave the points a light buffing while I was there ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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A100man wrote: | Interesting.. I might have expected to see some signs of the seal letting by - a weep of petroil maybe.
Have you run her back up yet? |
Hmmm... well the issue is possible air getting in. The way the lip and spring affair are set I'd have thought the old seal would have to be entirely fucked to let fuel/oil mix out - purely a n00b observation though.
Thinking back to when I was refurbing the oil pump I ran it on premix and at one point I tried running the bike but neglected to block off the carb oil inlet. 2mm, maybe 3mm hole? Enough air to dramatically throw things out of whack so I grok that even a weeny air leak would make a difference.
Having said that I'm only happy that the old seal was definitely "tired" certainly more so than say the oil pump, gear & kickstarter seals. I'm only hoping this is the source of the air leak, not banking on it.
But no, I've sadly not had the time: weather's been a bit shit and I can only work on the bike in the garden. Can't get the precious thing wet ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Easy-X wrote: | A100man wrote: | Interesting.. I might have expected to see some signs of the seal letting by - a weep of petroil maybe.
Have you run her back up yet? |
Hmmm... well the issue is possible air getting in. The way the lip and spring affair are set I'd have thought the old seal would have to be entirely fucked to let fuel/oil mix out - purely a n00b observation though.
Thinking back to when I was refurbing the oil pump I ran it on premix and at one point I tried running the bike but neglected to block off the carb oil inlet. 2mm, maybe 3mm hole? Enough air to dramatically throw things out of whack so I grok that even a weeny air leak would make a difference.
Having said that I'm only happy that the old seal was definitely "tired" certainly more so than say the oil pump, gear & kickstarter seals. I'm only hoping this is the source of the air leak, not banking on it.
But no, I've sadly not had the time: weather's been a bit shit and I can only work on the bike in the garden. Can't get the precious thing wet |
No, fair enough.. I don't knwo any better - just curious. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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And in the spirit of not leaving well enough alone...
The rear indicators always annoyed me - the "out on stalks" look. They are stock, of a sort, quite a lot of variations between models, years and countries.
Taking a lead from the front lights:
https://i.imgur.com/eWMvKqn.jpg?1
The rears just look weird to me:
https://i.imgur.com/iKoni6n.jpg?1
So I found these:
https://i.imgur.com/KLkFXLc.jpg?1
Which match the style of the fronts I think. The only downside is the lenses don't match:
https://i.imgur.com/foFDAve.jpg?1
Anyhoo, I've already gone a bit nuts with the brake light. I think it's an improvement:
https://i.imgur.com/DBxHR3c.jpg?1
The mudguard has some rubber v-grommets much like you'd have on suspension ends. The metal collars needed taking out from 8mm to 10mm ID. The frame holes were ~9mm so barely needed the paint knocking off. (Most of these "hollow bolt" type indicators are 10mm. The originals seem a bit weak for the job and were already wonky.) Some minor rewiring to extend the nearside cable and job done.
Of course, one has to take it down the road to check it works! Start the engine anyway as you can't see shit in bright sunlight just running from a weedy 6V lead-acid battery.
Initial tests don't show up any of the rev hangs but I only did a quick spin around the town. TBH after pissing about with the lights I wasn't in the right frame plus it was almost tea time All indications (hahaha!) are good ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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WD Forte wrote: | I'd say the rear light is a definite improvement,
the high level one was asking to be kicked. |
Thanks, apart from riding about, maybe some carb tweaks (a continual process without a dyno, half the fun though) and possibly a clutch refresh (lot better than it was but still not brilliant, maybe expecting too much) I'm gonna slap on some tank stickers and call it done.
Having seen a UK spec DT175 listed for four bags I did weigh up going for a full restore but I don't think I'd be able to get it done before the Covid bike price bubble bursts... maybe if I'd pulled my finger out at the start of the year ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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So my local garage sent me an MoT reminder for the Keeway. I know these things are automated but it's an excuse to go round and tell them I sold that bike. Given these are the guys that did the tyres on the DT I had promised them a look once it was finished. Glad I did...
Obviously only a quick visual appraisal but if it had gone for an MoT it'd fail 'cos I haven't got a nylock or split pin nut on the rear torque arm bolt. Gotta love free advice like that! Other than that they were pretty impressed. Engage smug mode
I'm getting a lot more used to the riding style now - I had been pretty negative about it - but I have to wait till the log book comes back with the colour change before I can sell it, nothing the wife can do about it! What a terrible shame ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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The original tail lamp I agree is awful, but those cheap e-Bay 'trail' tail lamps like the one you have are also pretty poor. Not good.
I use this myself- I don't actually know what it's from, it's similar, but a lot smaller than the Suzuki DR650 lamp. Either way- can't kick it, and it is sleek- That is.. until you see the number plate.
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Easy-X wrote: | Thing is it mounts really well in that spot and I believed at the time it was originally intended for the IT175... I suppose it's actually a super generic part? |
Yeah..I'm afriad so.
I see them all the time on such bikes as ours where the original lamp is replaced- for whatever reason. It is 'super generic'. My brother has has two, because they're so cheap- and the chrome(or whatever metal it is) rusts very quickly, and the rubber rots quickly, and even the lense popped off one day into the aether after a bit of a bump. I admit that was amusing- but alas, he bought a Suzuki DR650 light.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=offroad+enduro+tail+light&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=offroad+tail+light
However- you know what's interesting.. I find my tail lamp in that search result too- mine seems just as generic as yours !
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ThunderGuts wrote: | Looks a good project. I wish I had the time/space/money to do this sort of thing, although it'd probably be a Cub. I joined all this biking malarky 10 years too late; I understand Cubs and the like were peanuts to buy then. |
I'd definitely find the time to restore one of those if it just landed in my lap. TBH I prefer the idea of restoring smaller bikes... as in a light maiming if you've forgotten to torque something up over certain death with a newer, more high powered bike
There is also a beautiful simplicity in the older bikes before piling in with water cooling, EFI, ABS, etc. that we have in the modern world. I've said this before but lifting the fuel tank off even the Rebel reveals quite an intimidating array of wiring and pipes. (Actually, even just taking off the tank is a task in itself!)
Well, I have a shed now so the next project might be a tad more ambitious ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Tie a bow on it, it's done:
https://i.imgur.com/orQmWyw.jpg?1
Well, as much as I'm prepared to do anyway
Rode over to the garage to put some fuel in and stopped off to see my mate who originally sold me the bike to show him how it turned out. I think he was most impressed at how the rims cleaned up. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 237 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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