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King29
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Installing an electrical socket Reply with quote

My wife wants an additional socket fitted in the bedroom, must be a double one, preferably with the USB fitments that all the new one tend to have nowadays.

How easy is this? is this something that could be done in an hour or 2? I've been out today and bought the front plate and back box for it and 10m 6242Y cable, now all I need is to connect the cable to wire it up. There is a light switch a few feet above where she wants the socket, could I attach the 6242Y to the back of that?

Suggestions please. I know I'll need trunking to make it look neat, I can do that afterwards.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not wire up any power sockets to a lighting circuit, if you don't know what you are doing get an electrician to do it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get Mr Singh to do it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be very naughty to connect to the light circuit even if you only used a table lamp and charged your phone - until you forget. For a start it might not be earthed but the light circuit will be fused and rated at 5 amps whereas sockets someone will plug a hairdryer in should be 15 amps.

You can usually extend from an existing socket if one is available, it's similar to having a permanently plugged in extension lead.
An electrician looking later will probably do some tutting noises.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a gaffer who did exactly this once. Plugged in the hoover after wiring a socket to a light switch. Couldn't work out why the light came on when the hoover started, and couldn't work out why the hoover struggled to run up to speed...……

Don't do it
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like you might be safer with an extension lead to give extra sockets and USB

summat like this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VonHaus-Switched-Extension-Lead-4-Socket-2-USB-With-Surge-Protection/283138078868?epid=12031170149&hash=item41ec583894:g:hM0AAOSwaeJbjQAC
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best off getting an electrician to do it... a certified one at that!
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can spur it off an existing outlet, or you can break into the ring and wire it into that if you want the full current available. The first one isn't that difficult, the second requires some knowledge.

You'll also need some green and yellow sleeving for the bare CPC wire (earth).

If you do decide to do it yourself then make sure that the ring is fully isolated and test that to prove it dead before you do anything.

If none of that makes sense then pay an electrician to do it properly.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light switches tend to only have live and switched live, so it would never work anyway!

If you spur it and don't break the ring then you'll be compliant under part p stuff.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 11 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't know how to put in a spur, don't rely on a bike forum to get advice on how to do it....
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an easy enough job if you know what you are doing.

However if you have to ask, you don't know, so get someone who does to do it.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
Light switches tend to only have live and switched live, so it would never work anyway!

If you spur it and don't break the ring then you'll be compliant under part p stuff.

Op isn't part p qualified anyway.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
Light switches tend to only have live and switched live, so it would never work anyway!

If you spur it and don't break the ring then you'll be compliant under part p stuff.


As long as the socket you are using isn’t already a spur, or spurred from.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Installing an electrical socket Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
My wife wants an additional socket fitted in the bedroom,...

You've mentioned her a few times.. Perhaps you should let her have a go at it.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: Installing an electrical socket Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
King29 wrote:
My wife wants an additional socket fitted in the bedroom,...

You've mentioned her a few times.. Perhaps you should let her have a go at it.

P'raps it's for a heated towel rail she can dry socks on. ROFL!
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

All sorted now. Polish Pete did the job £20 and 2 mugs tea and a bacon sarnie.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure to file the EIC safely.
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King29
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 12 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That wont be happening. Polish Pete is a jack of all trades. I doubt he's got a cycling proficiency badge let alone an electricians qualification. You want your garden doing? Polish Pete, burst pipe! Polish Pete. Work on your car, Polish Pete. Etc etc.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 14 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is he in this country legally?

Does he declare his earnings (£20, tea, sarnie, etc.) to the tax office?
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 14 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
Is he in this country legally?


Why would someone from poland be here illegally, unless he'd previously been deported? And surely it's polish pete's business to declare his earnings, and not his customers?
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 14 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
I doubt he's got a cycling proficiency badge let alone an electricians qualification.


The call it Bikeability these days, apparently.. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 14 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:

And surely it's polish pete's business to declare his earnings, and not his customers?


Polish Pete wants cash, not a kite or bank transfer but cold hard cash.


bhinso wrote:
Is he in this country legally?

Does he declare his earnings (£20, tea, sarnie, etc.) to the tax office?


He says he's Polish, I don't know what he is to be fair. He probably signs on for all I know/care. For £20 he did something that I was not sure about, money well spent in my book.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 15 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
.... For £20 he did something.....

Do you know what he should have done?
King29 wrote:
.... that I was not sure about....

Er, I guess that's a no.
King29 wrote:
.... money well spent in my book.

Confused Well I guess you have a socket fitted.

To be fair wiring in a new socket is piss easy, however if you've got no idea what you're doing then it can go wrong and you should leave it well alone.
Euro wiring regs and practices are quite different to UK ones, and I'm not sure I'd trust my friendly local foreign builder bodger bloke to know what he's doing. I've seen some shocking work from "builders" that claim to know what they're doing.
If he's that bright and that good at what he does, why is he doing cash handy man bodge jobs?
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 15 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's only for a light, you could fit a light only socket and a light only plug onto the lighting circuit. They are smaller than normal plugs and have round pins.
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