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Which colour demon eye should I choose?
Blue
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Red
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None
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DUCAUDI
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: POLL already planning mods on new bike Reply with quote

Sorry to bore you guys with this, I'm sure nobody is actually interested but I am interested in YOUR opinions:

Picking up a new purchase next month. Fazer in blue/white colour scheme as below:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ke0AAOSwDZRdgrUo/s-l1600.jpg

First mod looking to do is projector headlights.

Options for demon-eye are blue, green, red or none.

Tempted by none to stay legal. Or maybe green as more likely to be overlooked by the old bill than red and blue which are sure to piss off the plods, especially blue. However I think red looks the meanest but blue would match the bike's colour scheme better.

Your thoughts?

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PostPosted: 21:51 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a Polite vest?
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not in the polite force, no.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thoughts are:
You are CansA and I claim my five ponds
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
My thoughts are:
You are CansA and I claim my five ponds


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PostPosted: 23:39 - 21 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave it stock.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

White halos, or red if you must. Green would just look daft (unless you want to paint the bike purple) and blue does match the bike but then, what's the point?
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forced wrote:
Leave it stock.


Not really an option for me. Aesthetics aside which are subjective, I'd really value the increased visibility at night. This is the only kit I can find with projector lenses, and therefore being suitable for HIDs. Yes I know you can get shielded HID bulbs designed for reflector lenses but HIDs in reflector lenses look s**t IMHO and probably an MOT failure anyway. Last time I took a bike for an MOT with HIDs in a reflector headlamp unit, it failed on 'bulbs not designed for headlamp type' or words to that effect. Assuming these projector headlight units from KT are E marked shouldn't be a problem in that regard.

Overwhelming majority currently going with none, and I'm inclined to agree, this was my initial gut-feeling. Personally I think green or red would look really mean but probably less agro from po po just going with none.

Next items on the shopping list K&N air filter, decat and Yoshimura zorst. Will I need a remap after these mods or being fuel injected will the computer learn and adjust to the new parameters???
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuberculosis wrote:
I'd really value the increased visibility at night.


Leave stock, add spots. Easier to install, Trivial to remove if you want/need/are told to, easier to aim properly and actually improve visibility.
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:
Tuberculosis wrote:
I'd really value the increased visibility at night.


Leave stock, add spots. Easier to install, Trivial to remove if you want/need/are told to, easier to aim properly and actually improve visibility.


That's one thing I hadn't actually considered and may well decide to do both instead of just one or the other.

Couple of questions. Can spots be additional dipped beams or will they be main beam only? And where would you mount those on a Fazer? Extra engine crash bars?
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better bulbs = more visibility. Adding gash aftermarket tat to a Fazer will do nothing for you.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Would it pass an MOT with those?


Logic says no, but my MOT guy wouldn't care / I would only consider the bottom ones if I was being 100% legit.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get blue I’d say you’d make lots of new friends. They’ll all be in cars and bikes that are also adorned with blue lights but theirs will flash!
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main reason not to get blue ones is that they will annoy other people who're using the roads.

Police are also less than likely to be impressed with them but that's your own lookout.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave it stock, replace with better bulbs Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 22 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does this work? Does it change the colour of the beam or it's just the position light of some sort and the beam stays ''white''?

I used to run a yellow (3000K) high beam bulb in my ZX7R, just because it looked cool and was actually helpful in rain when it got dark outside. I can't even imagine having a red headlight, let alone blue that's the worst thing to use at night.

Well, red headlights would make it look like a train that's about to move in the opposite direction, which is kind of cool. Thinking
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Better bulbs = more visibility. Adding gash aftermarket tat to a Fazer will do nothing for you.


What would you recommend? 100w rally off road only bulbs?

I've seen the likes of Bosch, Osram, Philip's, Ring etc. marketing 55w bulbs with a claimed 30% to 50% extra light output but I'm sceptical. Wattage is a measurement of energy. You can't MAKE energy out of nothing. Only convert it from one type to another. In this case electrical energy into light and heat. 55w is 55w. Only way you can get more light out of a bulb without increasing the wattage is by reducing the amount of energy that is converted into heat??? I see Chinese bulbs on ebay claiming 55w input 100w output what a joke laws of physics dictate that's not possible.


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PostPosted: 00:49 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
How does this work? Does it change the colour of the beam or it's just the position light of some sort and the beam stays ''white''?


Position light. Beam stays white. Demon eyes turn off when beam is turned on.
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
If you get blue I’d say you’d make lots of new friends. They’ll all be in cars and bikes that are also adorned with blue lights but theirs will flash!


I deff wouldn't get blue. It is the colour that matches the bike the best but blue is just too 2000s when all the 17yo barry bois were kitting their cars out with blue LEDs galore. I find blue a bit tacky. Green or red would look cool I think but I don't want any agro from the po po so me finks still do the mod but get a set without demon eyes Sad
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
mpd72 wrote:
Would it pass an MOT with those?


Logic says no, but my MOT guy wouldn't care / I would only consider the bottom ones if I was being 100% legit.


I'm not an expert but would have thought the ones without demon eyes would pass an MOT so long as they're E-marked. Which, admittedly, I haven't bothered to check yet whether they are or not.

FWIW the demon eye versions come with a switch to turn them off so could get them through an MOT that way anyway. I wouldn't want a poxy additional switch on my handlebars though. For me it would be either demon eyes come on with ignition (bypassing the switch) or not at all.

Leaning strongly in favour of not at all!
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody answered my questions, any of you knowledgable guys care to help me out here?

Tuberculosis wrote:
Next items on the shopping list K&N air filter, decat and Yoshimura zorst. Will I need a remap after these mods or being fuel injected will the computer learn and adjust to the new parameters???


Tuberculosis wrote:
Couple of questions. Can spots be additional dipped beams or will they be main beam only? And where would you mount those on a Fazer? Extra engine crash bars?


Sorry I know I'm spamming this thread but I'm not doing it on purpose Sad
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuberculosis wrote:
I've seen the likes of Bosch, Osram, Philip's, Ring etc. marketing 55w bulbs with a claimed 30% to 50% extra light output but I'm sceptical. Wattage is a measurement of energy. You can't MAKE energy out of nothing. Only convert it from one type to another. In this case electrical energy into light and heat. 55w is 55w. Only way you can get more light out of a bulb without increasing the wattage is by reducing the amount of energy that is converted into heat??? I see Chinese bulbs on ebay claiming 55w input 100w output what a joke laws of physics dictate that's not possible.

The confusion arises because light intensity isn't actually measured in watts, but lumens. The 'wattage' refers to the power they absorb, not what they emit. In days of old, you simply bought a light bulb which used a certain amount of power, by virtue of pumping electricity through a bit of wire until it glowed brightly; and the brightness of the bulb was proportional to its power rating. But then some clever bugger invented energy-saving fluorescent light bulbs, which produced much more light than the old incandescent bulbs for the same amount of power - they were sold as say, a "20W bulb, equivalent to a standard 100W bulb". Then someone even cleverer invented LED bulbs, which use even less power, and which make the whole concept of rating bulbs with watts even more daft.

It's almost as stupid as our insistence in the UK on measuring fuel consumption in miles per gallon, despite nobody having bought fuel in gallons since the 1980s...
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 23 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
It's almost as stupid as our insistence in the UK on measuring fuel consumption in miles per gallon, despite nobody having bought fuel in gallons since the 1980s...

Meh, people have a rough idea from the MPG figure if the fuel consumption is good or not and it's mostly for comparison purposes anyway rather than anything important.

If Vaclav tells you that a car will get three hundred hectares on a single tank of kerosene then you'll have no idea if that's any good, what you want is to hear it in miles per gallon. Wink
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