Labour and Antisemitism

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They just can't help themselves:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50382791

And there's me thinking Trump was bad at diplomacy!
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[bhinso]

But it's not just Jews and Hindu's that Muslims are natural enemies with is it?

The list of infidels area
Jews
Christians
Hindus
Sikhs
Atheists
Agnostics
Other Muslims
Taoists
Shintoists
Scientologists
Mormons
Confucianists

I agree about the Scientologists but this is where labour is going to lose the election. Just say that Brexit is bad for Islam.

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You forgot Druids and Jediism. Any religion that holds itself as the one true religion to the exclusion of others has the rest of the world plus galaxies far away as its adversaries.

By MDMA's logic Labour should be siding with whichever religion has the most potential voters, which I suspect will be Christianity although I haven't checked. Strangely only Britain First seem to have taken this idea on board...
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When did Napoleon invade Brittany?
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There is an awful lot of rubbish on this thread spouted by people who clearly know very little about Judaism. I am a Jew. I was born in Eilat in southern Israel and spent roughly half of my life living there. A lot of people only think of the Hasidic and Orthodox denominations when they think of Jews when in fact there are several different denominations. Just as with Christianity, which includes Catholics, Protestants, Methodists, Jehova's Witnesses, Mormons, Eastern Orthodox and Coptics among many others. I practice Reform Judaism, also known as Liberal Judaism, which has now become the largest of the Jewish denominations. The huge number of myths about Jews have become almost folklore and superstition now and are as relevant to modern Judaism as the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades are to modern Christianity. One of the areas of Judaism that is most misunderstood is the concept of Zionism. In it's truest sense, Zionism is the belief in a Jewish homeland in modern-day Israel. By that definition I would describe myself as a Zionist, I believe that Israel is and should be the home of the Jewish people. Many people link Zionism with several far-right ideologies that believe in the superiority and expansion of Israel over the Arab states. This is not true Zionism and it is certainly not something I believe. Nor is it what many true Zionists believe. I believe that Israel can and should exist peacefully with it's Arab neighbours and I, like many others believe in a two-state solution with Palestine being recognised as a sovereign state. However I don't believe that this can happen while it is still under the control of HAMAS which is globally recognised as a terrorist organisation. I also do not believe that criticism of Israel is necessarily anti-semitic, but far too many people see the policies of the Israeli government as being representative of all Jewish people, which couldn't be further from the truth. Many Jews like myself deplore the far-right policies of Benjamin Netanyahu, especially the human rights violations and oppressive policies that are so well documented. There are also many myths around the Jewish influence in the arts, science and business. This is not some plot for Jewish world domination, but has come about almost by necessity. From it's earliest history, education and literacy have always been central to the Jewish way of life. Literacy, numeracy, philosophy and science have always been subjects that all Jews should be proficient in from ancient times. This contrasts strongly with Christianity, which for many centuries, considered that only the clergy and the wealthy should be given access to education. Another reason for their dominance in business is down to attitudes to Jews following the start of the Jewish Diaspora in around 70 a.d. As the Jews moved throughout Europe they were met with a great deal of hostility of and discrimination. They could not join most nations armies, they could not work in public service and very few non-Jews would employ a Jew in any line of work. Because of this there was really only two businesses open to Jews, they could become merchants or they could become money-lenders. This, combined with the generally higher standard of education the Jews enjoyed compared to many of their competitors allowed them to quickly excel in these areas. Also the Jewish tradition of maintaining strong families and passing on of family businesses allowed these businesses to continue to thrive and grow over generations. Their generally high level of education also meant that Jews would soon come to dominate in science and medicine, again largely thanks to the attitudes of the Christian and Muslim attitudes that science was (and in many cases still is) Heretical and irreligious. In terms of LGBTQ+ rights and women's rights Judaism is actually ahead of most other religions and has been for some time. In many Jewish denominations women and men hold equal status and have done for many years (Orthodox Judaism excepted). The first female Rabbi was ordained in 1935, 60 years before the first female vicar and there are still no female Catholic of Muslim clergy. There have been openly gay Rabbis since 1978 and in 2011 Judaism became the first, and to date only, major religion to recognise and allow same-sex religious marriage. In 2011 Rabbi Greenman performed the first same-sex marriage to be legally recognised in Australia. Whilst there are still many areas in which we can improve, in general Judaism is a very progressive and egalitarian religion and the majority of Jewish people are the same. Please do not judge us all by what you see in the media, neither the policies of the Israeli government nor the insular, regressive and rather extreme views and practices of some branches of Judaism are representative of who modern Jews really are.
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[bhinso]

Plus the correct use of "its" as opposed to "it's".

A mistake frequently made by the now departed one.

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I'm with Henry II:

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Yea but some geezers took him at his word and did the dirty.

In Canterbury cathedral no less

He did penance which meant putting on sack cloth and moaning for a bit.

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Labour at it again.

The former UK equality watchdog chief, Trevor Phillips, has been suspended from the Labour Party over allegations of Islamophobia.

Historical utterings by Trevor Phillips now under investigation and they are comments a lot of people would say have foundations in truth.

Labour shooting it;self in the foot again in it's hurry to prove to the world how PC they are?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51797316
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Muppets. Trevor Phillips was one of the most respected people they had because he wasn't afraid to speak his mind.
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"Cancel them, CANCEL THEM ALL!!! MUHAHAHA!"

It stuck me recently, obvious now when I think about it, that the inherent problem with this wrongthink/twitter-archaeology/witchhunting malarkey is the more people you place outside the circle of trust the smaller the circle becomes until it disappears up its own bum!
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What's deemed acceptable comment is a strange boundary which has now clearly been shifted to the left.

Even fact now is to be silenced if it offends. We must bury the truth for fear of bad think.
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Here's a link from the Guardian, which is of course a Labour rag.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/09/labour-suspends-former-head-of-ehrc-over-alleged-islamophobia

I'm still struggling to find what he did that warrants dismissal. Can someone educate me?

OK he said something about grooming gangs, and also how few UK Muslims wore Remembrance Day poppies.

"Monday morning class for racists - it’s 2020 people 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️
- If you take a negative characteristic of an individual and impose on a whole community that’s racism
- personal anecdotes are not justifications for racism - it’s still racism "

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Is this the same Guardian that's recently been condemned as an "unsafe place" for trans-people?
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