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Freddyfruitba... World Chat Champion
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I dropped then £700 on my GSXR, wasn't an issue really... I pointed them to a cheaper one, but they want the money |
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Saw a nice bike on that link, cheers |
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Posted: 00:36 - 12 Nov 2019 Post subject: Re: Documentation/Administration Fees |
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AldridgePrior wrote: | Been looking at buying another bike the last few weeks and have noticed that amount of dealer adverts that slip in a fee on top of the price.
I mean, you want to buy a bike with no trade in and no finance yet they have the audacity to ask you for more to facilitate the sale? £99 right up to £199 for what exactly?
So you're paying to pay for it? Are these fees justified as I'd rather they included the whole thing so the price you see is the price you pay.
Anyone else irked by this? It kinda sours an otherwise attractive advert. |
If you ask the dealer, I'm sure they will tell you what the charge is for - my guess would be the cost of the PDI, admin charge for registering/licencing and cleaning to a reasonable standard.
Back when I started selling cars in the mid 80s, we were allowed to charge 'on the road' costs, which included all of that, plus RFL and a sizeable profit margin, but it was all pretty nebulous and could include anything you felt like; typically it was £3-500 (back when you could put a brand new Metro on the road for under 4 grand, so a significant proportion of the total cost) and it varied wildly from dealer to dealer.
Things are bit more under control now and labour rates are a tad higher - £1-200 covers a couple of hours work, plus some reconditioning costs, which may or may not be needed (win some, lose some) but I am only guessing.
As I say, ask. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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You can aye just buy from a shower of cunts who do not itemise their costs and hump it into the GT.
It's not like you owe them anyfink. Yet. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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"Admin charges" are pretty much 100% not legal (see https://www.whatcar.com/advice/buying/used-car-admin-fees-should-i-pay-them/n18825 ) - the price on the sticker should be the total price, which should include all their costs for paperwork, staff, cleaning, etc... you don't get to the checkout at Sainsburys to find they're adding £10 for keeping the floors clean and giving you a paper receipt...
Nobody seems to care about this utter rip-off con though, so your only real option is to walk away and let them know why. Doubtless, like me, you will be "the only person" who has ever done so. ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
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This is the sort of place that isn't selling bikes , it's selling MONEY. Of course they have thousands of bikes, they are all so over priced, once you add in all the extras, no one in their right mind would actually buy one for cash.... Does anyone actually walk in with 10 grand in their back pocket , no. So it's all about credit . What is the actual cash price anyway? The give away? The headline " Struggling for credit" of course you are , and can't live without a bike , even though it's November. It all looks so good on paper , you'll be stitched up like a kipper before you actually sit down and think about how much you will be paying over the term of the loan. I suspect that they have moved to Macclesfield ' cos there's always bikes around the area what with the 'Cat and Fiddle', Industrial units probably quite cheap too. Another give away , the Directors previously traded as ' 123 car finance ltd'- bikes are obviously more profitable?.... |
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They do it at Car Giant too. Bought a Mini for the (ex) wife there. Decent price even with the farcical 'admin' charge. What galled me more was having to sit through there shit presentation on warranty and paint treatment options. I sat for a about 45 mins repeatedly saying.. 'No, I just want the car'... I got it, eventually.
What a place though - literally a sales production line. You are even given an appointment time to collect your car. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600
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A word on extended warranties.
We got bait and switched recently on a car extended warranty. The Mrs liked the idea of an extended warranty and all the documentation they showed us was by a third party, accredited provider. We checked them out online before agreeing to it.
When the paperwork came through, they'd substituted their "own" in-house extended warranty with a similar sounding name and logo which among other things stipulated they had to do all the work and any routine servicing in their own workshop. Given they are 200 miles from home and twice failed to properly balance the wheels, not an option.
A carefully worded letter ("mis-selling" was the main word, used repeatedly) saw the originally agreed warranty documents arrive through the post. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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The ticket extras bug the hell out of me.
I go to the theatre in MK quite regularly. If I buy tickets on line from ATG (The Ambassador Theatre Group so not even a client ticket site) there are all these extras admin fees and whatever. Yet if I go into the theatre, where a nice girl serves me from behind a desk, I don't pay anything extra.
You would think they would rather encourage you to use the online buying rather than pay said girl to sit behind her desk on the off chance someone will come in to buy a ticket.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 163 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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