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mr.z
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Selective replating.... Reply with quote

Anyone ever heared of it?

I have a nasty chunk out of a fork leg, not good, roby mentioned haveing it replated, i was talking to the guy i'm borrowing some forks off and he mentioned this... he did some training with a firm called SELECTRON about 10 years ago, iv'e done a quick search and it didn't come up with much, there were one or two firms but i dont know if they would deal with my little problem...

I was wondering if any of you had delt with any companys who do this?

Also while i'm here, the ones i'm borrowing are pitted at the top, shouldn't matter enormously but is there anything i can do about rust/pitting, or should i just leave it alone? they only have to get me though an mot so its not a big deal if they cannot be fixed...
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.allbikeengineering.co.uk/index.html any help to you?

I think it was mentioned here that you can fix pitting/scratches etc with araldite epoxy resin stuff, bit of a bodge but apparently works well Smile
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr jamez wrote:
https://www.allbikeengineering.co.uk/index.html any help to you?

I think it was mentioned here that you can fix pitting/scratches etc with araldite epoxy resin stuff, bit of a bodge but apparently works well Smile


It works for a while, sand the legs down so ya get rid of any bits sticking up around the pits & then pill em with epoxy (Araldite works) & then sand em down smooth again so the epoxy ONLY fills the pits. Use 800-1000 grit... 1500 if you have the patience & can find it..
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Araldite repair works well, even on the 'working' part of the fork leg. You MUST use slow setting epoxy (araldite precision for example...NOT rapide). The key to success is in the preparation, remove all traces of rust with wire wool and paraffin then thoroughly degrease using a solvent (xylene works well, sold as araldite thinners, TCE or carbon tet. if you can get them is better). Now fill any pits with your epoxy leave to set for minimum 24h and sand as described by ZRX61. Take your time to get it REALLY smooth, it is a good fix.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't faff about with wire wool & paraffin, just hit it with some dilute phosphoric acid & the rust disappears.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Don't faff about with wire wool & paraffin, just hit it with some dilute phosphoric acid & the rust disappears.


Marketed as 'Kream' rust treatment for corroded petrol tanks. or speak to a chemistry student.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Execelent, yeh had heared of it, in fact i might have mentioned it in the other post Razz

I didn't realise it was a real workable soloution, only an emergency bodge... would roughing the offending pit help the araldite adhere? i'm guessing not but thought i'd ask...

Thanks for the link mr james, could be extremely handy in future Thumbs Up looks like i'd be looking at 95 to have my forks sorted Shocked Ive seen entire cx's go for that much!

For saying there is such a big cut out of the fork its done well to last this long, without the cutting edge of the mark it would probably be fine anyway, its only letting out tiny ammounts at a time, the forks have had gaiters on for the last 20 odd years, its amazeing some inbred monkey would make such a mashed up job of it...
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course the true ratbike solution would be to drain the oil out of the offending fork leg, double the viscosity of the stuff in the other and keep riding it. The MOT tester is not allowed to look under your gaiters if they are clamped down with jubilee clips. I have successfully MOTed many bikes with leaky fork seals using this technique.

Damping is for poofs.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkywheely wrote:
..The MOT tester is not allowed to look under your gaiters if they are clamped down with jubilee clips...


Realy? Bloody fantastic! Mwahahahahahaha, i will give that a try, there is also an m.o.t. center localy that is.. lets say a little bit relaxed... and if the worst happens i can use my borrowed forks! which are a REAL shitty mess but apparently are sound and not leaky..

Iv'e just been and got the stanction out of the shed, the seal appears to be intact, i guess you'd be able to see if it had totaly gone... there is a sort of recess inside the seal, i think the seal is stoping it fine, but the oil is getting into the grove in the leg, there is a point at which the recess would allow any oil in it to get out through the grove, which would explain why theres only tiny ammounts Question the seal is actually damaged slightly, on the lower outside edge <i'll post some pictures at some point...>

Yeh suspension is for pansies, though i dont think my girlfriend would appreciate the handleing advantages of rock solid suspension Razz a mate <odie-offline at the mo> has a cx trike without rear suspension <unless really low tyre pressures count?>, i'm assured it improves the handleing no end and is a far cheeper option than complicated propper trike suspension... can't say its the comfyest ride ever, a bit like a roller coaster but on the road....

The mot was bothering me the most really, i do want to sort it asap though, but i'd rather do it when i can change the bushes as well, one of which looks like its on its way out <whatever is the top layer, teflon i think, is half gone, so i'm presumeing its knackered>
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You misread, I said DAMPING is for poofs, this is what stops the thing boinging about all over the place when you hit a bump (as facilitated by oil in your forks). If you go about with no suspension at all you may well feel like a poof with the pounding your arse takes Wink
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkywheely wrote:
You misread, I said DAMPING is for poofs, this is what stops the thing boinging about all over the place..


Sounds like a honda 90, scarey stuff Razz

I'm not sure what i'm going to do with them now, i might try the araldite fix and keep an eye on it, ansl to keep a look out for a decent set of cx legs..

Is £100 allot for a pair for legs?

Just phoned the engineering place...

Apparently its...

New stanction - £80 each

Replateing - £117 pair

Breakers - £100 two complete legs

Edit-edit...

Ive just had a look at the outer/case of the forks, my eyes are still hurting, violent screwdriver wielding psycopaths are not so harsh on their victims, its unbelieveably messy there, there were one or two notches, one of which i think has caught the seal, ive filed off the sharper bits but there are still big notches out of it i'm close to just plain giveing up n this leg, the other leg is fine, obviously after mutilateing the first they decided to do the second properly...

So looks like i'm on the hunt for the legs complete...

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