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Ummm, that's this year, all but gone, not a prediction for next year. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Polarbear wrote: | in 8 years they went from the first man in space to walking on the moon.
In 160 years they have gone from the lead acid battery to the umm fancier lead acid batteries with a lithium battery off shoot. Despite people like phone and electric car manufacturers spending small fortunes on battery technology.
I won't hold my breath for new battery technology. |
It's repeated all the time; 'we went from the brown-bess muzzle loading musket, to the machine gun, within a century', or 'we went from the steam engine to the space shuttle in 250 years'... So EXTRAPOLATE the rate of technological 'progress'... and imagine where we'll be in ten years time!
It doesn't work.
Scientific Knowledge doesn't increase at an predictable rate... end of. It happens in random events.. AND THEN, 'some-one' has to find a use for it, then necessity is the mother of invention to make something 'useful' out of it.
Battery Technology? Two Hundred Years ... to get to where we are at now... with things that are still not a lot more advanced than a Lemon-Cell!?
Galvani, 'invented' his 'battery' from the 'need' to have a store of electricity to tickle dead toads with, in his anatomical experiments.... B-U-T he wasn't working blind; what he did was to get the ball rolling for a scientific explanation of electro-potential... the Galvanic-Cell, or Lemon-Battery, was nothing 'new'.
Archaeological evidence supports suggestion that it was probably 'known' if not understood around 3ooo years ago by ancient, Greek and Egyptian 'physicians', and used in medical treatments.
It's more than likely that some-one gave themselves an electric shock, holding a zinc rich bronze beaker, full of vinegar, stirring the concoction with a burned twig.... or as likely more than one some-one, and more than once!
You can almost see them, in the kitchen, "WHAT?!? That hurt! Quick, grab another amphora... lets see if it does it again!... Oooooh! It DID... lets try it with some of that Beer we brewed for your mother-in-law!" Because human nature don't change much!
And there in lies.... along withe the inextricable link between technological progress.... and BEER!
Small aside, we know from manuscripts/tablets, that the ancient used electro-therapy before Roman times; though more commonly they used fish like the Sting-Ray...
Modern Medical science... such a rapid rate of progress since Galvani's day and the leaches, and toads... all the way forwards to... err something that the Romans did, having probably got it from the Greeks who likely got it from the Egyptians!!!
Which shows just one of the dangers in this sort of extrapolation; taking arbitrary and peculiarly 'modern' base lines for the presumed start point... conveniently ignoring all of the prior knowledge that likely existed, if not so well explained, and the leaps and bounds of 'fashion' or adoption in between... like 500 years of the Catholic church having an embargo on human dissection, carried over from 500 years of it being banned by the Roman senate! So even when the time-line isn't perverted by random discoveries not being understood, or having obvious application, social factors and hey..... POLITICS... will tend to suppress or expedite the progress, so that any 'graph' is so bumpy, you could draw a line through the dots and draw anything you like.... a hill, a cliff, or a smiley face
Extrapolation of Technological progress DOES NOT work! There are just too many variables, and far too much that is... oooh.... pun... environmentally sensitive! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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MarJay wrote: | JackButler wrote: | Can any of the snowflake's & SJW's please tell me how a capitalist system that thrives on consumerism can ever possibly become environmentally friendly? |
In the same way that a capitalist system that thrives on consumerism can provide healthcare free at the point of use? |
Care to explain your counter-argument in more detail? Healthcare hasn't done anything to reduce consumerism. If anything, it's probably added to the problem. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Ummm, that's this year, all but gone, not a prediction for next year. |
FFS I'm a stupid cnut. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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FFS I'm a stupid cnut. |
No you're not. Just a senior moment, forgivable
I sometimes have moments of clarity. They're very rare, but... ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: |
Care to explain your counter-argument in more detail? Healthcare hasn't done anything to reduce consumerism. If anything, it's probably added to the problem. |
In the US where governmental oversight is generally frowned upon, the free market has traditionally run rampant and they have nothing in their government or institutions that really qualifies as 'socialised medicine' they have a problem with access to healthcare. They have a few programmes, but they are generally a sticking plaster to help a huge gaping wound and then some.
In the UK we have socialised healthcare, where everybodies needs are met. How did this happen? Did we just arrive at this one day? No, we have a free market capitalist society with some socialised elements. The primary example being healthcare.
So why is the same not true for the environment? Someone back just after the war took a hard decision to bring all healthcare under the remit of the government, and fund it using tax income. Someone in a current government could do something similar with the environment. They could retain our current free market capitalist economy, but institute policy and legislation that would regulate the areas of that economy that produce CO2. It's all about a free market capitalist economy with some regulation for the benefit of all. This is not communism, this is regulated capitalism.
It works for the NHS, why can't it work for the environment too? I suppose what I'm saying is that if there really is a climate crisis (learned people seem to agree there is) then why can't government start to take drastic action to address it? Some steps have been taken, but it's arguably not quite enough yet. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Pretty obvious, I'd have thought. The NHS is a national institution, much easier for a government to manipulate. Environment is a global concern, as is modern globalist capitalism. A national government deciding to do something will have little effect overall, especially of such a small and insignificant nation such as ours, not respected by its own citizens, never mind the rest of the world. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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No, it doesn't, because it won't, can't pay the asking price for many new drugs and treatments. But the drug companies seem ok with that, presumably because they still make huge profits elsewhere, and I assume that's through private health care for those that can afford it. They don't operate out of the goodness of their hearts, although maybe some of their employees do. Sad for them really, being exploited like that. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I feel we're drifting off topic into the very realms I ranted about at the top of the previous page ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MarJay wrote: | as I've already been warned for mentioning the B word here, I'll stop now. |
I'll just start calling you names if you carry on ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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DJP wrote: | So the solution then is to kill tens of millions of third worlders?
Probably not very PC though.
Although there is only one answer to environmental issues: Less people.
Now, who fancies going first? |
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It's a frightening thing that possibly the only way the human race will survive is to cull vast quantities of itself.
there again, what's the difference between doing it to animal populations that have out grown their habitat, we are animals as well and have certainly outgrown this planet so why should we be exempt.
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Another thought! - If the survival of the human race was dependant on moving to a distant star, do you think they would insist on LGBTWXYZ being part of the rockets crew. It's not like they would procreate to keep the species alive or would BAME over rule logic.
If you insisted on ugly women going (fairs fair, they can't all be Heidi Klum) would you have to send with them a good supply of 'beer goggles' to ensure mating?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 144 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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