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World population's got to be culled somehow, I've probably got maybe 20 years left in me, odds are good I'll be gone before the zombies hit. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Previously : CB100N > CB250RS > XJ900F > GT550 > GPZ750R/1000RX > AJS M16 > R100RT > Bullet 500 > CB500 > LS650P > Bullet Electra X & YBR125 > Bullet 350 "Superstar" & YBR125 Custom > Royal Enfield Classic 500 Despatch Limited Edition (28 of 200) & CB Two-Fifty Nighthawk > ER5 |
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Meh. Let me know when the real culprits do something about it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I think if all humans say in the UK are forced by laws to use low energy devices, renewable electricity (when it's able to meet demand which will always be intermittent) and adopt cleaner transport solutions, less private vehicle ownership and clean healthy transport solutions like walking and cycling it might help. But we'd have to eat synthetic meat and foods, and agree not to take flights or travel for work conferences when we can sit in virtual meetings etc.
If we did all this and much more too, like less consumerism, less on-line shopping and had less children and healthier bodies and lifestyles, (maybe forced to wear air filter masks in cities etc), well we'd all moan like fuck, but life would still be worth having a piece of and we'd probably be British and knuckle down and do what the man says.
Remember in 20years most alive humans will be millennials who will and have embraced doing everything remotely, synthetically and using smart tech or VR etc. They will sign up for the program and embrace environmental conservation and we'll be swept along with them or just swept aside.
It's a bit daft us talking environmental climate stuff on a bike forum for two reasons:
1, firstly I don't think we've collectively got enough information or knowledge on the subjects, or even a broad enough depth of interest or discussion.
2,which leads on to the fact we are motorbike freaks who are in a generalisation way far more into things with two wheels than the next semi balanced logical member of the public is.
What I don't get is the moaning from the olds that are leisure riders but want to keep on buying new bikes as they come out. I don't want the 2024 Fireblade and don't care if I'm banned by law from buying one.
If you want to do your own thing and fuck around burning petrol for laughs without needing your fuel to earn a living, then buy a classic or up-coming classic bike/car. 15years old is all it needs to be probably to be regarded as a classic, so that's a vast amount of machinery in all configurations available. I don't think they'll be able to do anything to ban historic vehicle use, except ban you from cities or riding in rush hour etc.
Really shit arguments I know, but I don't need a choice of new ICE vehicles in 5years and I don't care if they are around or allowed for sale either. If I'm encouraged financially into an EV or into leasing/shared vehicle use then happy days as its not going to be a massive problem for me or lots of situation similar people I reckon. |
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Robby wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | Meh. Let me know when the real culprits do something about it. |
Like the UK, who started the Industrial Revolution. |
You're on a hiding to nothing with that one. Good luck. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I assume by "the real culprits" you're referring to India, China and the USA. Countries which due to their population size and/or energy consumption per capita have the highest CO2 emissions.
They are doing something. India is going big on solar. This has upset the coal lobby in India, but even they can't stand in the way of it as solar keeps getting cheaper. Useful both as huge solar farms to feed the grid, and in poor, rural areas where a solar panel+car battery setup means a poor family can now charge a mobile phone and run a 12v TV. Also happening in some African countries.
China is investing a lot into R&D, including all kinds of nuclear options. China also has the advantage (in this case) of a strong state and central control. If they decide to stop burning coal in 5 years time, they can do it.
USA is tricky. Despite the current government, there has still been significant rollout of renewables - and this is pure economics, it's cheaper electricity.
The UK is good at ideas. We didn't start the industrial revolution from having every idea first - arguably it should have started in France 50 years earlier. We recognised the good ideas, took risks, and kept on improving the designs.
It can be the same for climate change solutions. Any solution will require innovative and slightly eccentric thinking. Once the widget exists, every country in the world will want to buy it - whether it is carbon capture and storage, synthetic fuels, new batteries, clean burning of waste, better solar panels or windmills. |
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Am I supposed to care about all that? You know, at a personal level? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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As an aside, when did bikers throw off the 'black leather troublemaker' and rejoin society as a constructive member and not a destructive influence. (From the no Irish, no Blacks, no crash helmet era)
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When they had more money to splurge. It's amazing what people can forgive when you've cash to splash.
I think bikers come from all backgrounds and all intelligence levels. The only generalisation I'd make is those who can afford it, but even that's thin. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Overpopulation is the REAL problem, but it can't be addressed because the wrong people have jumped all over it and made it a dirty word (as the above example illustrates). Isn't there an Arab saying: "myself against my brother, myself and my brother against my family, my family against my tribe, my tribe against my village, my village against my province, my province against my nation, my nation against the world"? Well, at least it makes it easy to differentiate the good guys from the dirty parasites, if you have trouble with that sort of thing. But I don't see it working with the overpopulation problem at all.
It's like eugenics. Eugenics Lite could solve a lot of medical problems, reduce suffering and improve society. But the wrong people latched onto it in the early 20th century, and now it can never be mentioned again.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 134 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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