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PostPosted: 16:37 - 03 Dec 2019    Post subject: Bealach Na Ba / Applecross Reply with quote

Afternoon all,

Looking to do this route next year; I've driven a 22ft motorhome over it, which other than doing a hill start with a reluctant handbrake, was pretty uneventful, but while it was big it was also inherently stable . . . I have a feeling two wheels will be different!

Any advice? I'm going to try and practice on some steep roads around the Peak District to get a feel for that sort of riding (normally I'm on sweeping A-roads rather than tight mountain singletracks) but I'd like to prepare so I can actually enjoy it (and the scenery) when the time comes!

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PostPosted: 16:39 - 03 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember it being particularly steep anywhere, nor the surface being particularly bad. I don't think you need any special advice - just go and enjoy it Very Happy

If you want a challenge, do the Hardknott Pass in the Lake District. Don't take the motorhome on that one though Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 03 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing remotely challenging apart from avoiding other traffic doing stupid things on the single track sections - especially the ever increasing number of motorhomes.
It doesn't even go anywhere very appealing there's noting at Applecross but the coast road north is OK (more dopey drivers not used to passing places though)

A far more testing route for bikes is HardKnott and Wrynose in the lake district.


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PostPosted: 16:59 - 03 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I don't remember it being particularly steep anywhere, nor the surface being particularly bad. I don't think you need any special advice - just go and enjoy it Very Happy

If you want a challenge, do the Hardknott Pass in the Lake District. Don't take the motorhome on that one though Laughing


I'm very familiar with Hardknott (and Wrynose) - definitely not motorhome territory! Last time I went up there the surface resembled the moon, it was appalling. Big potholes and loose materials, then polished bits.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 03 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can do hardknott/Wrynose, you can do the Belach, it's no steeper, it just goes on for longer and has more idiot marmite pots driving 22ft motor homes who should keep their white elephant the fuck off it and take the coast road instead.

Especially given there is a 10ft high road sign at the start of the route asking you not to use it.
https://www.visitwester-ross.com/userfiles/image/big_5/_med/bealach.jpg

ffs!

When doing it on a bike, as always, look at where you want to go, not at the thing you want to avoid and remember the throttle is an analogue control.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 04 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If you can do hardknott/Wrynose, you can do the Belach, it's no steeper, it just goes on for longer and has more idiot marmite pots driving 22ft motor homes who should keep their white elephant the fuck off it and take the coast road instead.

Especially given there is a 10ft high road sign at the start of the route asking you not to use it.

ffs!

When doing it on a bike, as always, look at where you want to go, not at the thing you want to avoid and remember the throttle is an analogue control.


To be fair, it wasn't a "very large vehicle" or a caravan. It was a van-derived motorhome which had no problems at all with the route, all corners on one pass, no reversing (by anyone). And it was in early April with hardly anyone about. I wouldn't dream of going up there in such a thing in peak season.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 04 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh, having done it in your motorhome and done the Lake District passes, I'm a bit puzzled that you felt the need to ask for advice. Was there a specific concern?
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 04 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Tbh, having done it in your motorhome and done the Lake District passes, I'm a bit puzzled that you felt the need to ask for advice. Was there a specific concern?


I did it in a motorhome before I was a biker, so I didn't look at it "in that way" and the Lake District passes I've only done on four wheels too, not two . . . it was quite a few years ago I did the Bealach and I can just remember it being fairly steep and pretty tight on the hairpins, terrain I'm not practised with on a motorcycle - hence the questions.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 04 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time you ride a steep, tight road on a motorcycle will be the first time you ride a steep, tight road on a motorcycle. Not much getting away from that really Smile

Just go and do it, you'll be fine. I didn't have any specific training or advice given me before I rode such roads.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 04 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve been up there and also the Wrynose/Hardknott pass on bike.

Granted, I wouldn’t want to be up there in the cold/wet/snowy weather.
I went to those places in the nice weather ie the summer.
None of them caused me an issue.

So the guidance should be , Just go!, in the summer.
Be there early in the morning before the tourists wake up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 05 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I don't remember it being particularly steep anywhere, nor the surface being particularly bad. I don't think you need any special advice - just go and enjoy it Very Happy

If you want a challenge, do the Hardknott Pass in the Lake District. Don't take the motorhome on that one though Laughing


So positive and great encouragement. Who won't jump in after such words? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 05 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardknott is more fun but not as long. No issues on either of them.
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PostPosted: 04:31 - 06 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Applecross 'The Pass of The Cattle' is not very technical but very scenic weather permitting. The view from to top is panoramic vista.
Recommend the fresh scallops for lunch. Sweetest tenderest scallops..

The road out to Mallaig is more technical if running at a decent clip.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 06 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:


The road out to Mallaig is more technical if running at a decent clip.


That's the one through Glen Finnan, isn't it? That is a fun one. The other one I've heard described as 'technical' that I like is the road from Inverary to Lochgilphead.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 06 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
MCN wrote:


The road out to Mallaig is more technical if running at a decent clip.


That's the one through Glen Finnan, isn't it? That is a fun one. The other one I've heard described as 'technical' that I like is the road from Inverary to Lochgilphead.


I'm in that zone. (About an hour and a coffee away) of these roads.
Loch Lomond up to Crainlarich top end of the loch is fab.
Or don't take the loch road and head to Inveraray from Tarbert.

It's all good and hardly any polis. (If you can go during weekdays. The wankers are out Sundays so the PoPo are positioned strategically to snare the daft-cunts.)

No matter what the rank and file may think, on those roads the speed limit is for good reason to stop people causing mayhem by shutting down a section of road when they overcook something. The locals then have hundred mile detours to get round to get home. That gets old instantly. 🤣

Ye can still go off yer heid on some sections with minimum risk to life or license.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 09 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most challenging thing we found last year was the traffic. Especially one dumb fcuk coming down who, on the steepest part with the tightest steepest hairpin, stopped on the way down above the bend, so we came on (going up) - then the tw*t decided to go, right in the middle of the already narrow road - tyre to bumper nearly. Think is being a leftie drive he had no problem seeing us coming up at him either...
I'd agree with others here the lake district passes are much more challenging technically.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 10 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:

I'm in that zone. (About an hour and a coffee away) of these roads.
Loch Lomond up to Crainlarich top end of the loch is fab.
Or don't take the loch road and head to Inveraray from Tarbert.


Have they resurfaced it? I seem to recall the road surface was appalling and falling apart where it twists and dives around the shores towards the north end.
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