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I would just re-use the washers. Lots of times they specify fitting new when it's just a precaution. The rubber washers under Suzuki cam cover bolts is one example - don't know anyone who has fitted new ones of those. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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I wonder the logic of replacing only the washers and not the bolts and washers?
Unless the washers deform when torque to spec.
Why not ask a dealer, say something like, 'Why are the washers replaced?'
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Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
Quote: | HKP; Why are you replacing them, can't they be reused? |
Hi HKP - Because they are aluminium washers they compress slightly when torqued up – for basic external components re-use isn't really a problem – but these are the cam holders which is an engine component – they have to sit exactly flat on the cylinder head and have to be torqued up to the same spec evenly and in sequence across the length and breadth of the component – so it's one of those jobs where I prefer to follow the shop manual by the letter rather than take any chances.
Quote: | Pete; I would just re-use the washers. Lots of times they specify fitting new when it's just a precaution. The rubber washers under Suzuki cam cover bolts is one example - don't know anyone who has fitted new ones of those |
Hi Pete; yes, I expect that you are right – but this is my first cams out job and based on my experience level I would prefer to follow the manual to the letter and use new washers.
Quote: | MCN; I wonder the logic of replacing only the washers and not the bolts and washers?
Unless the washers deform when torque to spec.
Why not ask a dealer, say something like, 'Why are the washers replaced?' |
Hi MCN; yes, good point, I wonder if the Honda dealers actually change these washers when doing a shim swap?
Quote: | Polar Bear; If they are aluminium the are going to deform a certain amount under a certain torque.
Solely for that reason, as much as I would cringe at the cost, I would use OEM's even though logic tells me it probably wouldn't really matter. |
Hi PB; yes, I have come to exactly the same conclusion – and I am definitely cringing at the cost . . .
Quote: | MCN; If the OEM says fit this or that then I most usually fit wotthey say.
Reason is the OEM probably has more experience from their own work and feedback from the field.
The other reason is the work involved to replace if a thing failed and is buried under several layers of labour to get at it. (Providing it hasn't assploaded by then.)
The main reason is The first rule of the sea. If it can happen then it will happen. Reliability is an engineered phenomenon not just luck. |
Hi MCN; Excellent comment, totally agree. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 139 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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