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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 22 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Winston Churchill wrote:
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.


He also wanted to head 'oop north and get stuck in shooting workers demonstrating in the twenties.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 22 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Winston Churchill wrote:
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.


He also wanted to head 'oop north and get stuck in shooting workers demonstrating in the twenties.


That's why he was such a great leader, he didn't give in to his desires. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 22 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's why he was such a great leader, he didn't give in to his desires. Wink


He was stopped by his assistant in his ministry.
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup even today Winston Churchill is not liked up here! Fill their bellies with lead etc.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they like anyone up there except for Alan Shearer?

I spent a year in Nautical college in South Shields. A bigger bunch of Neanderthals I have never met. The men were OK though. Wink

I used to ride with a group called the 3 Aces while I was up there. A nice bunch.

One had a dead cat (it was stiffer than a 16 year old in a brothel) that he used to stick under parked car wheels and when the car drove off he's make cat being squashed noises and then browbeat the poor driver into making a contribution to his new cat fund. He was a right nutter mind. He went into a curry house on Ocean road and offered to sell them his flat cat to go in their food. Shocked

That's also when I learnt a pint of Scotch didn't mean a pint of Scotch and the Ferryboat pub was a dangerous place on a Saturday night for a naive 16 year old. There were still dockers, ship yard workers and ladies of the night around there at that time!

Great days! I loved it up there once I learnt the language and understood what they were saying (I'd never lived north of Gloucester then).

Sadly it's all civilised now. Crying or Very sad

Anyway I digress. I didn't know Winston was disliked up there, did he play for Sunderland?
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

People think Boris Johnson is obsessed with the Churchill of "fight them on the beaches", i suspect he is more enamoured of the Churchill who regarded the common man as just a pawn to do his betters bidding.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
He also wanted to head 'oop north and get stuck in shooting workers demonstrating in the twenties.


Any comments on the essence of the quote or do you only deal in argumentum ad hominem?
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:


Any comments on the essence of the quote or do you only deal in argumentum ad hominem?


Im not sure he actually said fill their bellies with lead. He was damned hard line though and dispatched troops all over tbe place. There was a lot of unrest amongst the peasentry in those days. After ww1 he did give returning soldiers a better deal than they would otherwise have recieved. This more out of the the fear that a if a lot of battle hardened working class men decided to get involved in revolutionary politics the example of Russia did not bode well for the ruling class.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Easy-X wrote:


Any comments on the essence of the quote or do you only deal in argumentum ad hominem?


Im not sure he actually said fill their bellies with lead. He was damned hard line though and dispatched troops all over tbe place. There was a lot of unrest amongst the peasentry in those days. After ww1 he did give returning soldiers a better deal than they would otherwise have recieved. This more out of the the fear that a if a lot of battle hardened working class men decided to get involved in revolutionary politics the example of Russia did not bode well for the ruling class.


That was the big fear after the French revolution and specifically after the Napoleonic wars finished.

I can only presume we are just not a nation of revolters Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That was the big fear after the French revolution and specifically after the Napoleonic wars finished.

I can only presume we are just not a nation of revolters Laughing


I dunno some of us are pretty revolting Laughing

Is Brexit a revolt of sorts?
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Polarbear wrote:

That was the big fear after the French revolution and specifically after the Napoleonic wars finished.

I can only presume we are just not a nation of revolters Laughing


I dunno some of us are pretty revolting Laughing

Is Brexit a revolt of sorts?


I don't think Brexit is quite in the same league as Madame Guillotine or shooting your Royal Family in the cellar of a gulag farmhouse. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 23 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think Brexit is quite in the same league as Madame Guillotine or shooting your Royal Family in the cellar of a gulag farmhouse. Laughing


Yeah, the EU is dull to the last.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 24 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear I have met Alan Shearer and other well known players too. I used to live on the same housing estate.
Shearer is a complete and arrogant knob. Examples include when a workman was doing a job at Shearers house. They were chatting casually about how something should be positioned. The workman casually said 'Alan if you place it here it will light the room better' to which Shearer said 'It's Mr Shearer to you' and walked off! Yup they'd been chatting casually and for some time but Shearer is probably the most arrogant up his own backside blokes you could meet.
Peter Beardsley? Family Guy and so much fun and friendship it's unreal. He tends to drive a bashed old BMW which has the registration 'Pedro' or thereabouts. He can often be found running into the local CO-OP early in the morning because he forgot to get milk etc. If you say hi as he runs past to grab that milk he will stop and chat for quite some time! One of the few famous people who still have their feet on the ground.

Oh and Shearer - nothing whatsoever happened between Shearer and the Duke of Northumberlands wife recently. Absolutely nothing. Wink

Nothing wrong with the women up here. They take no sh*t that's all. Apart from the dukes wife that is..
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 24 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The girl I was seeing when I was at college up there had the face of an angel, the voice of a seagull and the constitution of an ox.

I wouldn't dare argue with her. Laughing
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