New register with number plate but without VIN

[fv43576]

I have other scooter at my brother farm barn in Norfolk, it is a Suzuki CS50 Roadie 1982 which is have a reg number plate but the VIN number on the right side near the steering column it should start with with JSA1 and end with six number. But it seem not be there? is this a metal or plastic label or it just printed on the metal of chassis without label?

The bike it was my grandad but he is no longer with us so no V5 or MOT document to be found. My grandmother is not here as well it is going to be a difficult to deal with register.

The bike is in perfect condition has been cover rag since 2006. The HPI details that I pay for £14.99 it doesn't show as report stolen but the VIN number is secret I wish it show me that number. The MOT history with that reg it did not present on the system.

Is the DVLA form V765 right one to register as a new owner without V5? on the form a details it said have to sign the previous owned but my grandad is not here!

What about the Q Plate would this lose my tax and MOT exempt in 2020 when the scooter become reach 40 years old?

I hope is there anyway to bring this scooter back on the road again with my name on V5. I would be very devastating if it got go to scrap.

Thanks
Fab

[garth]

You can get the vin from the reg no via a "dealer" hpi check.
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[fv43576]

[Riejufixing]

[fv43576]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Pre 99 didnt have a requirement to have a vin plate.

Look on the headstock for a frame number instead.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/0-identification-of-the-vehicle
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[fv43576]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[fv43576]

I was say the frame has been paint over the number, I have remove some of the area on the right side of neck steering frame till I have found CS50-XXXXXX and I thought this was the VIN number but i wasn't so I got to wire bush more paint off to find the VIN.

[Nobby the Bastard]

It won't have a vin number. That's the frame number. They weren't obliged to have a 17 digit vin number until 1999 and yours is 1982.
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[sickpup]

[Easy-X]

If the owner has passed away then whoever is the inheritor of the estate is the new owner. In normal times I would suggest writing, ringing or maybe web chatting with the DVLA to explain the situation. Shouldn't be a problem if it's got a number plate but the V5's gone missing.

However, given current circumstance I wouldn't bother. Spend the next few months restoring the bike back to whatever condition you believe is acceptable, ride it about on the farm and back roads and revisit the documentation when things have (hopefully) gone back to normal.

You might even consider just storing in for the next two years and come back to it when you can register it as "a vehicle of historic interest"
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[Riejufixing]

[fv43576]

I understand now the bike is 1982 have different type of VIN numbers as the later year.

I will deal with DLVA later.
Thanks

[Nobby the Bastard]

[fv43576]

Thanks

[fv43576]

I have spoken to DLVA they said may can register my name but first I have to give them my detail said fill out a V62 form. I am not sure which section to tick? second or third?

[Riejufixing]

[fv43576]

Riejufixing thanks, and all other member of forum thanks very much for all your help. without all you I would be helpless.