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C Simpson wrote: | Teflon-Mike wrote: |
Take a bus.. and wear a condom.... | so funny that’s what your parents should of done instead of having a child that’s a idiot if you are going to post a comment that isn’t even funny pal |
That's ironic - I just rated that as funny, which is unusual for a Tef comment..Take it easy and you'll find folk on here really do have your best interests at heart..
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C Simpson wrote: | what what would be the safest things to do |
Teflon-Mike wrote: | Take a bus.. and wear a condom.... |
C Simpson wrote: | so funny that’s what your parents should of done instead of having a child that’s a idiot if you are going to post a comment that isn’t even funny pal |
Really? Not funny, or not funny to you?
But still.. it is the correct answer to your question.
You want 'Faster'. How fast a bike goes is dependent on how fast the wheels turn in relation to the crank-shaft, and that is a matter of gearing. You wanna go faster, you need taller cogs. B~U~T, to be able to pull a taller cog, you need more force, and that begs more power.
NOW, what you got is a budget Chinky bike, probably with a Honda CG copy motor, maybe a Suzuki GS copy motor, is its OHC or OHV.... know what the difference is? If not you have a VERY steep learning curve.. howebler.... it's pretty much guaranteed to be an air-cooled four stroke, two-valve per cylinder single, of rather archaic design.. this is not necessarily 'bad', but is some-what limiting on what you could achieve.
The most powerful four stroke 125's, even with multi-valve heads, water-cooling and fuel injection, have never chucked out more than 17bhp from the factory, or exceeded much over 80mph, which bench-marks what you could get from a 125cc four-stroke.
You could bore it out, b-u-t, unless you can get more charge into the thing to fill a bigger cylinder, it aint going to make much odds.
So, engine swaps, what other engine could you chuck in there?
Well, as has been alluded to, with enough enginuity, pretty much anything you want; there was a chap that chopped nd welded up a mini-moto around a GSX-R drag bike engine.... it's all possible... whether its sensible is another matter; whether its do-able, by you, very very dependent, and whether it's actually rideable, something else again....
So what are you really asking? What are you actually hoping to achieve?
Straight off, monkeying with mechanics like this, ?I can tell you, a) is not 'easy', b) tends to be a very good way to spend lots of time and money to make a bike less valuable, less reliable and probably less rideable... can be 'fun' and a better wast of time and money than many other things, like say, golf, or fishing.... but.....
It is NOT a particularly 'sensible' thing to do, and there are very very few good reasons for even trying....
RACING... if you are going to go racing, then there's a raft of regulations you have to comply with, mostly in the ACU Handbook. Things like lock-wiring sump plugs and having a functional kill-switch. Beyond those 'Standing Regulations', there's a bunch of 'class' regs for different categories or classes of machine; like different engine displacements, or 'production' machines vs 'Open Class' machines... these all provide 'some' reason for messing with mechanics.... to find the edge to win races.... but you are not taking this thing racing.
THE LEARNING... you mentioned you wanted; To explore the possibilities of what you could do to a motorbike.... yeah, well, all grist to the mill, and can be good fun... and probably no more unsensible than golf or fishing... b~u~t..... what do you what to actually achieve? Little point re-inventing the wheel to find out why they are better round than egg-shaped! And like I say, its a good way to spend a lot of time and money to make the bike less valuable, and all too often less rideable, if its even notionally rideable at all!!... let alone on the public road, where you still have to work within the Gov't regs for Construction & Use, which is rather more than just getting an MOT on the thing... like, do you have a licence for it! But... still.
IF you want more fast, then there are plenty of bikes out there that offer an awful LOT more fast, no spanners required, and probably not a lot more money....
eg: the Kawasaki ZZR1100 was for a long while 'The Worlds Fastest (Production) Motorcycle', and folk spent the best part of a decade trying to coax one up to the 'Double ton' with the aid of nitreose oxide and or turbo-chargers and the like.... but out the crate that's a 170mph motorcycle... and you can pick one of them up for under a grand... Ie, about the cost of a budget Chinky bike and an e-bay big-bore kit.... how fast do you hope to go? And how much you got to spend?
Taking an air cooled two valve four stroke 125, about the very best you could hope for, is about 12-13bhp and maybe nudging 80mph from time to time... if the thing actually goes, and that is with a heck of a lot of messing. Of course you could, withe enough enginuity do like the GSX-R mini-Moto chap, just take the engine from a ZZR11, and force it into your frame... probably cost as much if not more than just buying a working, road-worthy ZZR, and youd have a mutant that couldn't really handle the power... but you'd get a lot of learning along the way!
SO, back up, what are you really hoping to do here?
And the answer remains the same.. you want 'fast' buy a faster bike... plenty of them about, many of them even still genuinely learner legal, but plenty more that aren't you would need to go get a licence for... so surely that should be the top priority here?
Meanwhile the 'Safe' thing to do, is to catch the bus and wear a condom.... you'll get there in the end, and who knows maybe you'll get lucky along the way.. B~U~T... all depends on what you are hoping for... so, the answers you have got, are the 'right' answers to the question you asked... so if you dont want them? [shrug] try a different question... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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