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PostPosted: 12:01 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone pointed out: UK has a high death toll 'cos of all these bloomin' immgrants! Etheniks is 4 times more likely to catch the Bad Aids and all that.


Tony Blair has got a lot to answer for. He obviously opened the immigration flood gates to people so they could die on the front line of the NHS in cases of pandemics while protecting ethnic Britons. He was very farsighted.

Disclaimer ^^^That's up in Lammy's racist conspiracy theories territory.^^^

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PostPosted: 12:15 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The flu shots are grown in canine cell lines. Dogs, like all animals, are full of coronavirus', anyone who's had a flu shot has increased susceptibility to coronavirus infections by over 1/3. As the US army discovered. Example: Northern Italy, recently deployed an experimental flu vaccine containing 4 different strains, including the highly pathogenic H1N1 strain.


Jeeeez. The wilful ignorance is strong in this one. Laughing

The vast majority of vaccines are produced in eggs. This is why, when you go for your annual flu vaccination, the nurse or doctor will ask you "are you allergic to eggs?".

Get an education or some help ffs. It's embarrassing Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it increases the risk by about 1%, which is minimal. There was no mention on changes to death rates so I'll treat that as the irrelevance it is.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Phd virologist Judy Mikovits thinks it's more like 36%, but you do you.


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Judy Anne Mikovits is an American anti-vaccination activist, conspiracy theorist, and former medical researcher. She has made discredited claims about vaccines, coronavirus, and chronic fatigue syndrome.


No wonder "-" upvoted your assertion. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just counting the days till the headline:

"Covid designed in Chinese lab to kill black people. We reveal the truth of the Ethno-Plague!!!"
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Phd virologist Judy Mikovits thinks it's more like 36%, but you do you.


Are you "-" ?
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covid is raciss and accordingly, must now be stopped....
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1258320121971593216?s=19
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The flu shots are grown in canine cell lines. Dogs, like all animals, are full of coronavirus', anyone who's had a flu shot has increased susceptibility to coronavirus infections by over 1/3. As the US army discovered. Example: Northern Italy, recently deployed an experimental flu vaccine containing 4 different strains, including the highly pathogenic H1N1 strain.


Let's go back to that statement shall we?

From the CDC site:

"The most common way that flu vaccines are made is using an egg-based manufacturing process that has been used for more than 70 years. Egg-based vaccine manufacturing is used to make both inactivated (killed) vaccine (usually called the “flu shot”) and live attenuated (weakened) vaccine (usually called the “nasal spray flu vaccine”)."

From the University of Oxford's Vaccine Knowledge Project:

"Egg allergy is quite common in children under 5, and much more common in children than in adults. Around 60,000 children in the UK have egg allergies. In the UK schedule, both the Nasal Flu Vaccine (Fluenz Tetra) and two of the Inactivated Flu Vaccines may contain traces of egg proteins. This is because the flu virus is grown on fertilised hens' eggs. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation has advised that most children with an egg allergy can be safely vaccinated with the nasal flu vaccine (Fluenz Tetra). This is because the ovalbumin content is very low. The only exception is children who have a history of severe anaphylaxis to eggs which has previously needed treatment in intensive care. These children should be referred to specialists for immunisation in hospital. This advice is based on a recent study called SNIFFLE which tested Fluenza Tetra on several hundred children with egg allergy. See more information about the SNIFFLE study and an information sheet from Public Health England showing the ovalbumin content of flu vaccines in the current flu season.

Other non-routine vaccines, such as yellow fever vaccine, may also contain egg proteins. Those with egg allergy should always ask about egg protein content before receiving a vaccine."

Some non-influenza vaccines are grown on human or animal cell cultures. From the Oxford site again:

"For vaccines used in the UK, human cell strains are used to grow viruses for these vaccines:

the rubella part of both MMR vaccines (MMRVaxPro and Priorix)
the shingles vaccine (Zostavax)
both chickenpox vaccines (Varivax and Varilrix)
The cell strains currently used (called WI-38 and MRC-5) were started in the 1960s using lung cells taken from two aborted foetuses. The abortions were legal and agreed to by the mothers, but they were not performed for the purpose of vaccine development."

"Viruses for some vaccines are grown in laboratories on animal cell strains. This is because viruses will only grow in human or animal cells. In the UK schedule this applies to these vaccines:

The polio part of the 6-in-1 vaccine (Infanrix Hexa), the pre-school booster vaccines (Repevax, Infanrix IPV and Boostrix-IPV) and the teenage booster vaccine (Revaxis)
The Rotavirus vaccine (Rotarix)
One of the Inactivated flu vaccines (QIVc)
Viruses for these vaccines are grown on Vero cells. This is a cell strain started in the 1960s using kidney cells from an African green monkey."

Not flu vaccines though. They're grown in eggs.

I'm not even going to dignify the "Dogs, like all animals, are full of coronavirus" comment with a response.

Anti-vaxxers cherry pick data and fact, distort and exaggerate them and generally lie through their teeth. They actively cause harm by propagating dangerous misinformation that unfortunate gullible people pick up.

You're clearly an anti-vaxxer as well as a conspiracy theorist. I'm not going to engage with you further because frankly, banging my head against a brick wall or even trying to engage Donk in debate would be more productive.

Odd that you turn up when Donk is starting to suffer the backlash of his bigoted posting though... Laughing

I could almost start a conspiracy theory of my own over that...
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'Conspiracy Theorist', a term invented by the CIA to attack the original critics of the JFK Warren Commission whitewash, and used to ridicule critical thinking and the pursuit of truth ever since.

Quite! Do go on.
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Smeared and framed by the system she exposed, removed within hours by Youtube , Google, Vimeo, Dailymotion et al because big tech is doing your thinking for you now, and receiving the usual whistleblower treatment from the same people that promoted WMD and Russian collusion, and suppress cures like Ivermectin and hydroxychloroguine. Meanwhile Mr. Gates has the patent for a microchip vaccine and his factories are primed.
At least the doctors are waking up.

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PostPosted: 18:59 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

TaffyTDM wrote:
Covid is raciss and accordingly, must now be stopped....
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1258320121971593216?s=19


fcuk's sake I wish Lammy would put a sock in it.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No narrative here of course, but the media don't like the drug that cures 80% of cases it seems.

https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/0a071ae2764a17aea71f6d22d9bb283478c5c9a582c41519f63115ef11606cd8.jpg


Says nut job Alex Jones who makes his money flogging dodgy supplements to people.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
TaffyTDM wrote:
Covid is raciss and accordingly, must now be stopped....
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1258320121971593216?s=19


fcuk's sake I wish Lammy would put a sock in it.


I don't. It's racist idiots like him that make Labour unelectable. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not flu vaccines though. They're grown in eggs.


Incorrect, after 40 years that has changed.
Flucelvax is the only flu vaccine approved by the FDA for the 2019-2020 season. It contains 4 flu strains, all cell based to avoid egg-adapted changes.
It is being administered this year in the UK.
If you wish, you can read it yourself.

https://www.flucelvax-tetra.co.uk/

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/cell-based.htm.

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Flucelvax Quadrivalent is the only cell-based inactivated influenza vaccine that has been licensed by the FDA for use during the 2019-2020 flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/cell-based.htm
The rest are egg-based.
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/lot-release/influenza-vaccine-2019-2020-season
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Thumbs Up

Also FDA and CDC are 'Murcan... Laughing

Anti-vaxxers gonna anti-vaxx.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cell based vaccines are superseding previous types

Possibly, eventually.
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and are a source of retrovirus contamination for humans.

Source? And bear in mind Judy Mikovits' experimental result was refuted when replicated, and shown to be due to sample contamination.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, you can't or won't even quote accurately from the references you yourself provide. Do some proper research and stop spouting shit.
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