Cashless society

[Polarbear]

We have touched on this at variuos times in other discussions but I came across this in my news feed.

New York City Stores Must Accept Cash, Council Says

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/nyregion/nyc-cashless-ban.html

Also according to the article other states have enacted the same laws.

I am actually amazed. I would have thought authorities would love a cashless society as there are so many plusses from their viewpoint.

I'm also surprised by businesses being anti cash. My local pub hates someone buying a pint and paying with a card as they say that's most of the profit taken up with a card transaction fee. They have a minimum £10 to use a card sign up but if someone buys a pint then has no cash there isn't much they can do but accept a card.

Maybe card fees are a lot less in the good ol US of A.
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[Riejufixing]

Cash is still king in many places, and I hope it stays usable.

https://www.cardswitcher.co.uk/2018/04/credit-card-charges-small-businesses-pay/

[linuxyeti]

Sooner we go cashless the better, in fact there's at least 1 pub which is cashless, made it onto the news a couple of years ago !! To be fair, I rarely use cash now, in fact, really only in my favourite chippy, that has so far not moved with the times, I live in hope.
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[piazza]

I can do without the powers that be knowing every coin I spend, and on what, and when.

I recall a time when there were options to pay for things, happy days..

[Polarbear]

As far as big brother is concerned cashless is a no brainer. You can track people by their payments. You can see where large sums of money come from and I can't see your local scumbag drug dealer carrying a card terminal with him.

Along those lines, can you sill buy a PAYG phone without registering it nowadays?
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[piazza]

Buy sim card preloaded, put in phone. No registering it required, or am I wrong. I have a 16 year old number I keep active on a pay as you go.

[recman]

I wouldn't dream of using my card in some of the dodgy looking fuel stations I've had to stop at on the bike, particularly the card-cloning mutha suckin Shell stations.

[Riejufixing]

[piazza]

Yeah, but you is black and a criminal innit

[stinkwheel]

[duhawkz]

[Polarbear]

[Sister Sledge]

Cash is far more useful. If things head toward being more cashless then I can see even more bargaining power if offering cash. If we do go that way then bartering will become more prominent.

With cash, cashless, wages direct to bank or wages paid in cash have a story. It might answer the USA thingy:
I worked at a site where wages were paid cash and weekly. Managers began demanding workers bank details so that workers could be paid monthly into their banks. No kind offerings were put forward by management. I refused because I had plans on leaving anyway plus I'm naturally an awkward b*stard. Another worker refused because he had some debts which would 'see' what he was being paid and would put some sort of claim to the money. (It was years ago so can't remember exactly but think it was a bank who he owed) Any taking of earnings would literally have left that bloke homeless until he could bargain with his debts. It was all bad timing for him or something.
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[kawakid]

In the next town there are some restaurants which are cash only, I simply refuse to visit them.

In my opinion if you are cash only and bigger than a small shop or take away then you are on the fiddle. Cash means people paid off books, people not on the minimum wage and people on benefits whilst working.

There’s also the possibility of the shops being Used to clean money.
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[piazza]

Inb4 ID cards and cameras in my toilet etc....nothing to hide nothing to fear, right?

[Easy-X]

My local curry house has a sign outside: "Half Price for Cash" I dunno if they even have a card machine!

Cash is useful but only in small amounts. For companies like Sainsbury and Tesco getting a security van to pick up cash is actually more costly than the card fees (they negotiate down the rate of the latter.) That's why they used to be so keen on debit card cashback at the tills.

Non-chain pubs and restaurants can run a little differently. Large amounts of cash is fine as you can just pay the staff wages from it, maybe some of the suppliers (CoD) and then the rest just slips down the back of the sofa
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[linuxyeti]

It makes sense for businesses to be cashless, less of a target for the business to be robbed, no need for staff to walk to the bank to to deposit the takings, more difficult for money laundering to happen. In our area, instead of giving cash to the homeless, there's an app you can use to pay to a fund for them. It's also better for thee staff, as they are far more likely to be paid legally, including at least minimum wage, correct tax and nation insurance amounts, also pension contributions...
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[King29]

It won't be long before we are all microchipped by law. New borns will have bar codes on them for tracking. 1984 is fucking real.

[mentalboy]

[piazza]

[AldridgePrior]

[Sister Sledge]

If things go cashless it'll be far easier for government to follow what you're up to. Big Brother is indeed getting very close.
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[Polarbear]

[kawakid]

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