Why Labour Lost the Election

[bhinso]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kf1YKeq7lA&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR008zui9VLEoLKz_QjM_aOOspGq8Qis2GEoV_TVWu1dedtkxUB--FQlqqw

Not for Mr 476.

There needs to be a credible opposition.

[Sister Sledge]

I was able to see Corbyns rise to power. I saw the powerful following he had when I'd visit the Durham Miners Picnics. His followers were many and strong. There was also a strange side to things..
Sure Labour also include diverse groups but during the rise of Corbyn I also saw these fringe groups multiplying. It was good to see minorities being included but I also felt that there were too many being dragged along. It was as if a giant flood gate had been allowed to open. I still think that Corbyn only allowed these groups on board because they brought him votes. There was a problem though - due to how special these groups were, they didn't relate to people in the North East of England.

Locally, we had elections and for my area we were losing Ronnie Campbell - Labour MP for Blyth Valley (retiring) and quite a battle started for not just his replacement.
The Labour candidate is someone I know. Our paths have crossed for decades via community matters, my community work and other bits. Admittedly she'd done some good here but also some bad and we don't forget the bad stuff!
She knocked on my door for my vote. I kept her talking for over 40 minutes and she outright denied that Brexit would dictate who won the General Election - she denied everything!! I told her of course I realise this is local voting but it's about what her party sought. I was told that I was wrong. I was told that there's a bigger picture. I was told that she knew she would become MP here. The arrogance in her was astounding. She did not win - a Conservative became MP for the Valley.

Locally where I live the Labour party have become even more lazy. They are doing nothing for us. There they are, various political factions at County Hall bickering over jobs to be done and the whole while the residents are suffering.
I've made it a little game of chase and hate on FaceBook for my local parish council and the County Council. It's so easy to point out the failings of those supposedly running things. The apathy and laziness in political runners of them is astounding. We're being taxed more here and seeing even less in services. I still blame Labour for how locals are being hammered here - it's as if they're punishing us for them not being elected in. They forget though that people tend to remember bad things and not good things - they will not be voted back in any time soon.

Sorry - ranting!
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[linuxyeti]

Sorry, there's no way I'm wasting over an hour watching that..

Labour lost, because ..

Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbot, irespective of policies, I and many others simply couldn't vote for a party led by these 3 ..

Momentum - The real power behind the above 3, again, the bullying, general nastyness etc coming from within that group.

The apparent lack of direction..

The apologist attitude..

The self serving attitude, yes, even worse than the conservatives

The policy pledges in the manifesto, yes, I did agree with some of them, but, by the time of the election, it was as if the policies were just being pulled out of a lucky dip barrel, there was no credibility.

Now, the issue is, by the time of the next election, the number of MP's is likely to be reduced to 600 due to the constituency boundary changes, that are now almost guaranteed to pass, as, there is no viable opposition to the government. Should these changes take place, it would mean, even a healthy well supported labour party would find gaining a majority at an election very difficult, labour has handed this advantage on a plate to the conservatives..

In short, we no longer have an effective opposition party, and, should the boundary changes take place, and unless the conservatives do something particularly heinous, we're not likely to ..

Welcome to the UK, a single party state from hereon. Ultimately, democracy has been killed in the UK by, Corbyn & co, and momentum
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[Polarbear]

[bhinso]

TLDW:

The labour figurehead has changed from the guy who identifies with the working class

to

The oxbridge educated gender non-specific apologist who worships the EU, tries to be pro-Islam without being antisemitic, and states 'migrants welcome' (as long as they're not within 100 miles of my gated community).

Any attempts to point out flaws in this philosophy results in a massive 'lalalala we're not listening'.

Brown was the classic example, a la biggot-gate in 2010.

[Easy-X]

[bhinso]

The worst thing is that they don't seem to have learnt from it at all, with the current leadership hopefuls.

It looks like the prize is going to go to the candidate who virtue signals the most.

[Riejufixing]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

[Polarbear]

[bhinso]

This ^^^

My attitude changed when I tried to get on the property ladder and paid more than half of what remained after tax on a mortgage.

This was in the late naughties, when the house prices had skyrocketed in the previous decade. St. Tony standing up for the landlords there.

[MCN]

[bhinso]

[Omega]

Labour need to remember that they're supposed to be the working class party and not the benefit class party.

[BTTD]

[Polarbear]

[bhinso]

The idea of Universal credit (I think) was that it was meant to make it so that you would never be at a disadvantage when working (as opposed to on benefits).

When I think of Labour these days I think more of London based champagne socialist metros.