2035 ban on petrol and diesel [blank]

Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

It's a very 20th century approach to have to commute to work every day.

Very few non-physical jobs actually need this every day. I work from home 2 days a week and could do it more often but it's nice to get out of the house and actually see the people you are working with.

Your employer may be stuck in the past, though. Do they have a fax machine as well?
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dynax · Trackday Trickster Joined: 06 May 2019 Karma :

The real answer is more bikes, if for an example the A1 category was raised to 250cc with 20hp limit, and was granted to full licence car drivers as in the case of the AM class, but for it to become valid they had to do the CBT in the form of proper training as opposed to how some of the training is currently done, and they had to display "L" plates for 12 months after which another CBT style of test was needed after this they would then have full A1 category licence Thumbs Up

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I would put a limit of 20bhp, at least this would make more useable on motorways,

here is a link to a brief history of licensing,

https://www.lightningpass.com/changes-motorcycle-learner-law
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stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

Won't really affect me, as long as I can get petrol and parts and keep using my 27yr old car and classic bikes. I need to be allowed to run old two strokes until there's no Silkolene bottles left for sale though.

I use trains and buses alot for commuting, and with the usual rail problems of delays and cancellations, they otherwise work for me and suit my needs. At work we use a fleet of diesel cars and vans, and when I need to be out at work sites all day, I could do 100miles in rural areas, with lots of short duration stops. If an electric van can easily do that, and we had enough plug in parking bays at work, then it would work for me.

For domestic travel an electric car or bike would suit me nearly all the time, if it was comparable to the cost of an ICE vehicle. I do 3-4 long trips a year 250-280miles in a day. If I can get a petrol/diesel hire car for these trips then that is fine.

I expect for some people in areas with poor transport links or very rural remote areas, that anything other than personal private transport will not work for decades yet. And for the private and commercial drivers who do 200-300miles a day for work as the norm. They will need loads of help to get an electric solution, it might need such huge infrastructure improvements it'll also be decades before it works for them.

And for HGV's well it'll only become viable to go electric when at least all of the UK motorway network is electrified with inductive road charging, and that won't be enough for all daily road haulage requirements.

Sister Sledge · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Aug 2018 Karma :

I'm not against banning the sale of ICE vehicles - it's how government carry out neutralising them which is the problem. We all know very well how cr*p government are at creating transition and providing other means of transport. I fear that come dead ICE day, Nothing will be there should people wish to give up freedoms and use public transport.

Someone touched on this: Rail freight. Near me you have the Port of Blyth. To the north is the old coal yards for the former Blyth Power Station. The rail infrastructure is still there, is huge plus extra land if needed, links to mainline rails and is very close (1/4 mile close) to a main shipping port. It's the ideal location for a rail freight terminus that would serve the North East.
You've guessed it - a small business park is being built nearby and developers want land to help pay for the construction of it. Land for housing. Land that should be a freight terminus.

*Rant mode engaged*

Wasted electricity. For starters lets switch off every second lamp post. Let's switch off ALL lamp posts where there are no footpaths. Let's ban stupid 'look at me' lighting at residences where they use uplighting and other pointless bragging lights.

Nuclear thingies: Has anyone actually taken the time to adsorb what the UK has done/not done so far with lethal nuclear stuff? It stinks. Forget sea dumping of waste - there's plenty of material out there explaining it all.
I'm absolutely against nuclear everything. Never used to be but the mess and expensive contamination we've left as a legacy is shocking.
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Polarbear · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :

The thing with electricity generation by renewables is the limitations.

We are now at what, 50% when the wind is blowing or the sun is shining. There comes a point where we can't build more and more wind turbines. All the hydro is at full capacity and our nuclear is maxxed out and no one wants nuclear anyway. How much will the country running electric cars increase the power demand?

Luckily there is loads and loads of natural gas around the world which will be the staple fuel for power stations into the distant future.

Also, we now have LNG powered ships, which use modified diesel engines that run on gas and in America they are experimenting with LNG powered lorries so what's to stop the ICE engine carrying on with LNG or LPG power.

It only says ban diesel and petrol engines.
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dynax · Trackday Trickster Joined: 06 May 2019 Karma :

Ethanol is also a good alternative with just a few mods like hoses and seals that are suitable and a water trap of some kind, there are so many alternatives that can be used, it's the oil companies or at least the higher level management that have some serious influence and dictate what can and can't be used Evil or Very Mad

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