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| stevo as b4 wrote: | The whole thing has changed us, changed the UK and the majority opinion on political and national views. If people deny that then they will have to just accept its a barely hidden hardly silenced under current bubbling away.
The exit is now about the UK, and getting a fairer and much more UK first approach. Its going to be no bad thing for a generation or so to do so. UK national pride, products, resources and services are going to be more of prominent thing now, and anyone who things any of this is terrible and awful, well its not, it's just only slightly re-balancing the collapse of sense, pride, sensible free speech and reasonable opinion. |
Yes, you're right, our latest fighters, whilst containing some UK based manufacturing, are essentially american built aircraft, our mpa, that is only now beginning to replace the Nimrod, is, american manufactured, our latest training aircraft for the RAF/RN, are american, brazilian and french manufactured. The new helicopters for the RAF & AAC will be american manufactured. Our latest trains, are predominently, japanese, italian, spanish and german manufactured. Our UK car and motorcycle manufacturing, is almost entirely reliant on foreign investment, Nissan, Toyota, Tata. Should Nissan, Toyota, BMW, Peugeot, Tata follow Honda's example, UK car manufacturing will be decimated.. Even Triumph manufacturers most of their bikes abroad, we've seen what happened to Norton, run as a giant scam, and, to be fair, Aston Martin appears to be being run in much the same manner, in fact, they are very reminiscent of De Lorean, both shining examples of UK manufacturers. Our new nuclear power stations are being built by french companies. 'british Steel', survival will be reliant on chinese investment. Huawei taking part in the 5G infrastructure, wouldn't be an issue if there was a UK manufacturer that could provide the equipment. Which of the above means a British First approach, and, the above has bugger all to do with brexit.
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| stevo as b4 wrote: | The whole thing has changed us, changed the UK and the majority opinion on political and national views. If people deny that then they will have to just accept its a barely hidden hardly silenced under current bubbling away.
The exit is now about the UK, and getting a fairer and much more UK first approach. Its going to be no bad thing for a generation or so to do so. UK national pride, products, resources and services are going to be more of prominent thing now, and anyone who things any of this is terrible and awful, well its not, it's just only slightly re-balancing the collapse of sense, pride, sensible free speech and reasonable opinion. |
That's a pipe dream now, and I don't mean just the immigrants who couldn't give a toss about Britain. The kids/young adults have in general no pride in the country. The nearest they get to that is supporting the national team in whatever sport they watch or something like the Olympics.
The equivalent of Kennedy giving his 'Ask not what your country can do for you' speech would get laughed out of the room. It's 'what can we get out of our country' nowadays.
I really hope we get a sense of national pride back but I can see that being nipped in the bud as racist, anti diversity and all the catch phrases that get bandied around if anyone mentions patriotism.
FFS the Yanks have more pride in their country than we do.
With should have a saying 'It's OK to be British'.
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| linuxyeti wrote: | Yes, you're right, our latest fighters, whilst containing some UK based manufacturing, are essentially american built aircraft, our mpa, that is only now beginning to replace the Nimrod, is, american manufactured, our latest training aircraft for the RAF/RN, are american, brazilian and french manufactured. The new helicopters for the RAF & AAC will be american manufactured. Our latest trains, are predominently, japanese, italian, spanish and german manufactured. Our UK car and motorcycle manufacturing, is almost entirely reliant on foreign investment, Nissan, Toyota, Tata. Should Nissan, Toyota, BMW, Peugeot, Tata follow Honda's example, UK car manufacturing will be decimated.. Even Triumph manufacturers most of their bikes abroad, we've seen what happened to Norton, run as a giant scam, and, to be fair, Aston Martin appears to be being run in much the same manner, in fact, they are very reminiscent of De Lorean, both shining examples of UK manufacturers. Our new nuclear power stations are being built by french companies. 'british Steel', survival will be reliant on chinese investment. Huawei taking part in the 5G infrastructure, wouldn't be an issue if there was a UK manufacturer that could provide the equipment. Which of the above means a British First approach, and, the above has bugger all to do with brexit. |
Jesus wept. Wtf is all that?
British Steel was shafted by EU regulation that stopped the UK gov stepping in and saving it, and from what I've read that game has been rigged by the Germans for years. Honda pulling out has more to do with its move away from diesel engines and focussing on a reduced manufacturing platform so it was always going. Nissan actually increased investment in the UK in 2017, after the Brexit vote, but yes if every other manufacturer pulls out then the UK car industry will be left with Morgan.
As to Aston Martin being a scam... their finances have often been precarious, but you're suggesting the entire endeavour is an outright fraud like DeLorian and Norton. I'd genuinely be interested to see the links to that as it's the first I've ever heard of it.
I think more marketing departments will see a USP of British Made etc and try to tag onto the populism. |
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| jnw010 wrote: | | linuxyeti wrote: | Yes, you're right, our latest fighters, whilst containing some UK based manufacturing, are essentially american built aircraft, our mpa, that is only now beginning to replace the Nimrod, is, american manufactured, our latest training aircraft for the RAF/RN, are american, brazilian and french manufactured. The new helicopters for the RAF & AAC will be american manufactured. Our latest trains, are predominently, japanese, italian, spanish and german manufactured. Our UK car and motorcycle manufacturing, is almost entirely reliant on foreign investment, Nissan, Toyota, Tata. Should Nissan, Toyota, BMW, Peugeot, Tata follow Honda's example, UK car manufacturing will be decimated.. Even Triumph manufacturers most of their bikes abroad, we've seen what happened to Norton, run as a giant scam, and, to be fair, Aston Martin appears to be being run in much the same manner, in fact, they are very reminiscent of De Lorean, both shining examples of UK manufacturers. Our new nuclear power stations are being built by french companies. 'british Steel', survival will be reliant on chinese investment. Huawei taking part in the 5G infrastructure, wouldn't be an issue if there was a UK manufacturer that could provide the equipment. Which of the above means a British First approach, and, the above has bugger all to do with brexit. |
Jesus wept. Wtf is all that?
British Steel was shafted by EU regulation that stopped the UK gov stepping in and saving it, and from what I've read that game has been rigged by the Germans for years. Honda pulling out has more to do with its move away from diesel engines and focussing on a reduced manufacturing platform so it was always going. Nissan actually increased investment in the UK in 2017, after the Brexit vote, but yes if every other manufacturer pulls out then the UK car industry will be left with Morgan.
As to Aston Martin being a scam... their finances have often been precarious, but you're suggesting the entire endeavour is an outright fraud like DeLorian and Norton. I'd genuinely be interested to see the links to that as it's the first I've ever heard of it.
I think more marketing departments will see a USP of British Made etc and try to tag onto the populism. |
Christ, you miss understood pretty much everything I wrote there. Actually British Steel wasn't shafted by the eu, it was shafted by the british government, that hid behind eu regulations, all they really had to do was state that the steel industry was essential for national security. In the same way, that some Royal Navy support ships are going to be built in Italy, but, the contract would have been perfectly legal to give to a british ship yard, if they were to procurred un the auspices of national security..
You missed my point about UK car and motorcycle manufacturing, my point was, that virtually none of it is british owned, and, if, those foreign investors removed their investment, then UK manufacturing in that sector would be on it's knees..
Yes, Aston Martin is fast morphing into a DeLorean type company, getting grants and other support from the welsh assembly, whilst, essentially now being a financial basket case.
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| Polarbear wrote: | The thing with the EU is that Britain is stupid enough to adhere to all the rules. Most of the EU countries cherry pick what they want and ignore the rest or look at 'legal' ways round them.
Yes, you are right about steel but our government wouldn't dare lie about it, they would get crucified by anyone wanting to put the boot it. The big problem with the British media and politicians is they would rather fcuk the country over than support their opponents or let a story pass. |
Wouldn't have been lying, so many, even within the government, have said the steel industry could and should come under the national security umbrella, but, the government simply didn't/doesn't want to bail out the industry, it would cost too much. I'm just wondering who the government is likely to try and blame in situations like these, once the transition period with the ue is over..
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