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Suntan Sid
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

WTF is it with Boris and bridges?

Yesterday the government said:-
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“Government officials are carrying out work in relation to the idea of a bridge linking GB mainland to NI. There’s a proper piece of work being carried out into the idea.”


The 26 mile "bridge" span would be between PortPatrick and Larne.

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It would require dozens of support towers – at unprecedented depths of more than 1,000ft in places – while navigating Beaufort’s Dyke, a submarine trench containing more than 1 million tonnes of Second World War munitions.

One engineer called it “bonkers”


Having spent a third of my adult life living in SW Scotland, I never heard a single voice asking for a bridge to be built.
What I did hear, time and time again, was complaints about the A75, the only route from the motorway network to the ferries at Stranraer. Anyone who's spent any time on this road will know that it's totally inadequate for the amount of HGV's using it. There have been requests for this road to be upgraded for decades, but they've been resolutely ignored by all flavours of government. Even with recent, partial upgrades it's still a crap road for the amount and type of traffic using it

Boris has form for this, in 2014, as mayor, he came up with the, pie in the sky, "garden bridge" in London.
Despite being told that the project was unfeasible, he ploughed on regardless and managed to spunk between £40M or £50M of public money on a vanity project.

6 years on and here we are again, Boris spunking more public money on, (according to engineers), a totally unviable vanity project.

Sounds like utter bollox to me!

My guess would be, there's some jiggery-pokery going on and pockets are being lined, again, by way of feasibility studies and consultancy fees for party donors!

But hey, it's just public money, so no harm done! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but Boris and Brexit and Getting It Done so nothing else matters.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
Yesterday the government said:-
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“Government officials are carrying out work in relation to the idea of a bridge linking GB mainland to NI. There’s a proper piece of work being carried out into the idea.”

I think it's a silly idea, too.

It would have to be a tunnel, not a bridge, and that would be a bloody silly idea, too, 'cos a chalky English Channel it ain't.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect he has put it out there to somehow strengthen his hand in negotiations with the EU...
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
WTF is it with Boris and bridges?


Well roads in Scotland are a devolved matter so that's Nicola Sturgeon who is to blame. As a Scot you should be well accustomed to sh1t public services because your devolved government (SNP) only cares about independence and bashing English people. You wanted the powers, and now you must accept responsibility for the failures.

As for the bridge the water is mostly about 300ft deep so its going to be expensive. It would be cheaper to offer a free fast ferry service [to England].

The SNP also really cares about the cliomate change bandwagon. Yoiu'll be paying the price for that policy too Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tin-foil hat people think it's very good timing that the bridge is being considered... considering the results in the NI elections!

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PostPosted: 22:41 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
As for the bridge the water is mostly about 300ft deep so its going to be expensive. It would be cheaper to offer a free fast ferry service [to England].


That'll be apart from the 1000ft deep bits, where they dumped all the WWII munitions! Good luck tunnelling through that.

If anyone has ever done the ferry from Stranraer, you'd be wondering how many days a year any "bridge" would be closed due to the weather and/or sea state.

Load of old twaddle!
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Article the quotes are from: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-scotland-northern-ireland-bridge-brexit-a9327396.html

"He also declined to respond to the suggestion it could end up being a bridge between two countries outside the UK – if Scotland votes for independence and Brexit drives Northern Ireland into unity with the Republic." Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQgPi4CW4AMfOCC?format=jpg&name=large

At least he has a list.

Closer to 2 million tons including Anthrax, Phosgene gas, mustard gas.
Then the 1950s where Caesium 137 and Radium 226 was lobbed in.

The MOD admitted that much was 'short-dumped' i.e they don't know what was dumped where.

So maybe factor-in a few more quid for the unforeseen.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:

That'll be apart from the 1000ft deep bits, where they dumped all the WWII munitions! Good luck tunnelling through that.


Well, if it's that full of explosives, it should tunnel itself shouldn't it?

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PostPosted: 23:48 - 11 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
The tin-foil hat people think it's very good timing that the bridge is being considered... considering the results in the NI elections!

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Why do they say that? The bridge isn't going as far as Norfolk!
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
WTF is it with Boris and bridges?


White elephants are a frequent tool of inept governments to divert public attention from basic failures towards propaganda of "success".

Look at any Dear Leader of the People and you'll find something gigantesque (Sochi olympics park, US-Mexico border wall, presidential palace in Ankara) that taxpayer's money is wasted for (usually with proportionally huge corruption) while the country's basic problems remain unaddressed.

Expect the bridge to be sang about by Johnson's media workers while NHS is failing, costs of living are rising, and Brexit-induced downturn is getting worse.
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

cdlxxvi wrote:


White elephants are a frequent tool of inept governments to divert public attention from basic failures towards propaganda of "success".

Look at any Dear Leader of the People and you'll find something gigantesque (Sochi olympics park, US-Mexico border wall, presidential palace in Ankara) that taxpayer's money is wasted for (usually with proportionally huge corruption) while the country's basic problems remain unaddressed.

Expect the bridge to be sang about by Johnson's media workers while NHS is failing, costs of living are rising, and Brexit-induced downturn is getting worse.


Come on then, let's have it, after all the shite you've spouted, all the made up quotes and 'enter reality' bollox you've thrust upon us, who is going to lead us into the brave new world you think everyone else is dragging us away from?

Give us a name, or a party, or just an idea; something that gives you some credibility and stops us from thinking you're just an argumentative twat.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

cdlxxvi wrote:
Suntan Sid wrote:
WTF is it with Boris and bridges?


White elephants are a frequent tool of inept governments to divert public attention from basic failures towards propaganda of "success".

Look at any Dear Leader of the People and you'll find something gigantesque (Sochi olympics park, US-Mexico border wall, presidential palace in Ankara) that taxpayer's money is wasted for (usually with proportionally huge corruption) while the country's basic problems remain unaddressed.

Expect the bridge to be sang about by Johnson's media workers while NHS is failing, costs of living are rising, and Brexit-induced downturn is getting worse.


Ouch! If you're this bitter now what's it gonna be like after a decade or more of Boris? Still, at least you have the money the EU pay you Smile
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The A75 should be the priority, even if a bridge was possible what is the point if you can't get to/from it quickly.

I went that way last year and it was no better than when I went 8 years ago, given the importance it should be a motorway.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Article the quotes are from: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-scotland-northern-ireland-bridge-brexit-a9327396.html

"He also declined to respond to the suggestion it could end up being a bridge between two countries outside the UK – if Scotland votes for independence and Brexit drives Northern Ireland into unity with the Republic." Laughing Laughing


It could. But if Scottish independence happens it will be during the early construction phase/planning at which point Boris could cancel the funding and make the SNP pay for it. iScotland, freshly bankrupt, would then have to cancel the bridge.

Suntan Sid wrote:
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
As for the bridge the water is mostly about 300ft deep so its going to be expensive. It would be cheaper to offer a free fast ferry service [to England].


That'll be apart from the 1000ft deep bits, where they dumped all the WWII munitions! Good luck tunnelling through that.

If anyone has ever done the ferry from Stranraer, you'd be wondering how many days a year any "bridge" would be closed due to the weather and/or sea state.

Load of old twaddle!


They will avoid the 1000ft bits, or go over them, using a bridge.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
The A75 should be the priority, even if a bridge was possible what is the point if you can't get to/from it quickly.

I went that way last year and it was no better than when I went 8 years ago, given the importance it should be a motorway.


Scottish roads are a devolved matter. Nothing to do with Boris. Ask the SNP.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
It could. But if Scottish independence happens it will be during the early construction phase/planning at which point Boris could cancel the funding and make the SNP pay for it. iScotland, freshly bankrupt, would then have to cancel the bridge.


Or get the EU to pay for it.
After all someone's going to have to pay for all the free Uni educations and prescriptions. I don't think it will be the Scottish tax payer.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Boris Bollox Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Suntan Sid wrote:
WTF is it with Boris and bridges?


It would be cheaper to offer a free fast ferry service [to England].

What they should do is build two giant towers with lifts, one in Norn Ireland and one on the Haggis Peninsula and run zip wires from each down to ground level at the other end. No lorries or cars could use it, but you could send people and food hampers.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fek it... just get the paddies to dig a canal across the gap. That way they can float barges over the WWI splosifs.
And it will create jobs.

Shit.... I could be a politician. 😎
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any bridge would blatantly be blown up by the propa IRA.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 12 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats only potentially 20 billion of tax payers money to waste. could be worse spunking 100 billion on a highspeed train line to knock 30min off a commute.... ohh wait were all ready billions deep into that massive waste of cash Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 13 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record Garden bridge was half-garden half-bridge and cost me as a London taxpayer £46m.

It's about time you all people and the country to pay thr bill for the new wonder from BoJo - Scotland to Ireland thingy will be half-bridge half-tunnel Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 13 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind, BoJo's been outdone by the Dutch, looks like they want to dam up the whole of the North Sea, (anyone east of the Pennines better buy flippers and some water wings! Laughing)

BloJob will have to come up with something even more "bonkers" to top that!
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PostPosted: 03:06 - 13 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
Never mind, BoJo's been outdone by the Dutch, looks like they want to dam up the whole of the North Sea, (anyone east of the Pennines better buy flippers and some water wings! Laughing)

BloJob will have to come up with something even more "bonkers" to top that!


I thought building dams was a Dutch speciality?
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