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Posted: 16:09 - 13 Feb 2020 Post subject: Re: New and overwhelmed |
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Peanut_Butter wrote: | Hi all
Passed my MOD2 yesterday.. don't know what i want or what i want it for if i'm honest.
Dad had bikes and i always fancied one, did my CBT in 2010 and then did nothing with it.
Decided to try again and got to the end point. My first thought was to ease the commute into Manchester when the weather is better and then try make use of it on a weekend, the odd trip out or to make normal errands that bit more interesting!
I will confess to knowing nothing about bikes really and i don't know where to start.
My budget is 5k-ish but don't need to spend all of that.
I like the look of the retro stuff but not sure that's the type of bike i want or will suit what i need it for.
I also want something that I'm not going to get bored of.. but I'm not the most confident to go out and buy something scary.
Anyone recommend a good article to read on bikes for dummies? So when i do start looking i know what i'm looking at!
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£5K retro bike, I think you've just described a Royal Enfield Interceptor !! Lovely bike, and, 2nd hand & ex-demo bikes are beginning to find their way to the market..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROYAL-ENFIELD-INTERCEPTOR-2018-68-EX-DEMO-513-MILES/153723638269?hash=item23caa491fd:g:sScAAOSw6GJeMJlp
Here's 1 close to you .. Since released in March last year, constantly been a best seller in it's segment according to the MCIA press stats. I can confirm it's a lovely bike to ride, nimble, and has been 100% reliable for me, in the just over 5000 miles I've ridden it, including 1 day of a 392 mile round trip. !!
Of course, if you want to look a little leftfield. I can recommend a Mash 400, you'll easily get 1 in your budget, has the advantage of being in the lower ved bracket, again, nice bike to ride, and perfectly capable on the motorway, this bike will also bring into play the Herald 400, same frame & engine..
Or.. there's the new Benelli Imperiale 400, only had mine a couple of weeks, nearly, but 500 miles in, I'm enjoying riding it, still running this in, but, a very nice lazy bike. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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£5k is a healthy budget, even half that will get you something nice enough to start on.
General good advice is to get a year or so under your belt on something cheap and cheerful, to get any slow speeds drops out of the way on a bike you wont cry over.
The rest of your money will sit nicely until the following summer, when you've learned a little bit more about what you like and are a bit more confident on two wheels.
Nice middle of the road option for a year or two would be an SV650 like so. ____________________ I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock. |
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c_dug wrote: | £5k is a healthy budget, even half that will get you something nice enough to start on.
General good advice is to get a year or so under your belt on something cheap and cheerful, to get any slow speeds drops out of the way on a bike you wont cry over.
The rest of your money will sit nicely until the following summer, when you've learned a little bit more about what you like and are a bit more confident on two wheels.
Nice middle of the road option for a year or two would be an SV650 like so. |
Or, you just get any bike you want.. The risk of a drop is there, no matter what the bike, how experienced you are, or, how expensive the bike is ..
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Polarbear wrote: | Well I will be the complete antithesis of linuxyeti and say don't get any of them as a first bike.
Get a machine from a mainstream manufacturer that is supported in your area.
There are plenty of retro/naked style bikes to chose from that will be reliable and fun to ride. Make some decisions on what you like. Go to bike shops and sit on them. Get a test ride if you can. |
And why is that? How are RE no longer a mainstream manufacturer, there are more RE dealers withing 20 miles of me than there are Triumph or Kawasaki dealers.. Come on, Polarbear, get into the 21st century, if not the current decade !!
Same goes for Benelli, and there's at least 2 Mash dealerships in my area.
In the North West, especially, there are plenty of RE & Benelli dealerships, I can't say what the dealer situation is like for Mash up in the North West.
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Posted: 17:43 - 13 Feb 2020 Post subject: Re: New and overwhelmed |
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Peanut_Butter wrote: | Hi all
Passed my MOD2 yesterday.. don't know what i want or what i want it for if i'm honest.
Dad had bikes and i always fancied one, did my CBT in 2010 and then did nothing with it.
Decided to try again and got to the end point. My first thought was to ease the commute into Manchester when the weather is better and then try make use of it on a weekend, the odd trip out or to make normal errands that bit more interesting!
I will confess to knowing nothing about bikes really and i don't know where to start.
My budget is 5k-ish but don't need to spend all of that.
I like the look of the retro stuff but not sure that's the type of bike i want or will suit what i need it for.
I also want something that I'm not going to get bored of.. but I'm not the most confident to go out and buy something scary.
Anyone recommend a good article to read on bikes for dummies? So when i do start looking i know what i'm looking at!
Thanks guys |
What I never thought about with bikes is how the engine feels. So I would see if you can ride a few bikes, try thumpers, v twins, inline 4s, see how they feel to ride what what makes you happy when you twist the throttle. If you hate the way a boxer engine feels, a retro BMW isn't for you even if it looks cool
That said, I will probably choose a ZZR600 as my first bike. They are cheap as chips, super cool, reliable... |
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linuxyeti wrote: | Polarbear wrote: | Well I will be the complete antithesis of linuxyeti and say don't get any of them as a first bike.
Get a machine from a mainstream manufacturer that is supported in your area.
There are plenty of retro/naked style bikes to chose from that will be reliable and fun to ride. Make some decisions on what you like. Go to bike shops and sit on them. Get a test ride if you can. |
And why is that? How are RE no longer a mainstream manufacturer, there are more RE dealers withing 20 miles of me than there are Triumph or Kawasaki dealers.. Come on, Polarbear, get into the 21st century, if not the current decade !!
Same goes for Benelli, and there's at least 2 Mash dealerships in my area.
In the North West, especially, there are plenty of RE & Benelli dealerships, I can't say what the dealer situation is like for Mash up in the North West.
There aren't that many retro styled bikes to choose from, sticking a round headlight on an Sv doesn't really make it retro |
Because in my view an RE as lovely as they are, are not a suitable primary or only bike. I like them but I'd have to have another bike as my regular machine.
As for the others, I don't like Chinese and I'll never recommend one as a first bike to someone, and even if I did, I wouldn't recommend a large cc single because I don't like them as road bikes. Also what you call dealerships are not what I call dealerships.
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I think a good do-it-all bike is where you should start. Something that performs reasonably at most tasks. What used to be known as an all-rounder; a rarity these days.
I would suggest a Fazer 600, 98-03, or maybe a Hornet. These bikes will give you something of everything, and then you can find out what you like best about them, what you don't like, and hone a future choice that way. They'll at least be fairly reliable assuming you manage to pick a good, looked-after example, cope with any commute you want to do and give you a taste of the more fun side of things. And they won't break the bank to run or if you drop them. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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^^^ Agreed^^^
You can get a decent example of any of the all rounders, Fazers, Bandits, Hornets, ER6s or even SV's if you are so inclined. You can get a good example of any of them and still have change from your budget.
How about a pink Gladius
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Look for an old ratty bike for less than a grand that you won't give a shit about, thrash (what remains of) the arse off it then flog it for as close to the price you paid when you've got bored/destroyed it, then do the same again until you've got a bit of experience under your belt.
Use that first bike as a learning tool for riding, maintenance, dropping and basically fucking up in all weather conditions..... you'll find that no matter how bad the weather is, how miserable your commute is... you'll still reach your destination with a grin on your face |
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andym wrote: | Look for an old ratty bike for less than a grand that you won't give a shit about, thrash (what remains of) the arse off it then flog it for as close to the price you paid when you've got bored/destroyed it, then do the same again until you've got a bit of experience under your belt.
Use that first bike as a learning tool for riding, maintenance, dropping and basically fucking up in all weather conditions..... you'll find that no matter how bad the weather is, how miserable your commute is... you'll still reach your destination with a grin on your face |
My opinion is that such a rat is jumping too far in the deep end. Sorry andy
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chickenstrip wrote: | My opinion is that such a rat is jumping too far in the deep end. Sorry andy
You can learn basic maintenance on a decent example. Get those skills down first before you have to start scratching your head wondering what's bloody wrong with it?!, and getting frustrated. Have a pleasant introduction to biking! |
Each to their own.
I don't see the point in spending a fortune on a first bike, and sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is the best way to learn. |
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andym wrote: | Each to their own.
I don't see the point in spending a fortune on a first bike, and sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is the best way to learn. |
Perhaps, but when your starting point is "I know nothing about bikes", maybe not. I still say basics first, give yourself a grounding on which to base a deeper learning. The OP could always buy something to tinker on in the garage, a simple single cylinder machine perhaps, if tinkering is his (oops, apologies!) their thing. £5k would stretch to both if sensible about it. And some tools.
Wait a sec. Did I suggest being sensible?! I think I need to see a doctor
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I'm thinking that the sensible thing to do would be to buy something cheap to learn to ride on then get the bike I really want in a year or two.
My dad (fortunately) could always help if I run into mechanical issues and my husband is technically minded so don't think it will be the end of the world if something goes wrong. |
No point in going too cheap though. It'll take the shine off the whole biking experience if your first bike is forever in pieces on the garage floor, with money flying out on parts etc. That's what I think anyway ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Because in my view an RE as lovely as they are, are not a suitable primary or only bike. I like them but I'd have to have another bike as my regular machine.
As for the others, I don't like Chinese and I'll never recommend one as a first bike to someone, and even if I did, I wouldn't recommend a large cc single because I don't like them as road bikes. Also what you call dealerships are not what I call dealerships.
That's my view which is just as valid as yours. |
Except, you have no experience of any of the bikes and/or manufactureers, whereas, I have, so, no, your view is not as valid, as it's based on prejudice and heresay, and, not actual experience. can I ask, how many miles have you ridden on an Interceptor, or Mash, or Benelli, or any other for that matter, in the last, lets make it easy, say, 12 months? You're quite happy giving your opinions, but, don't actually see any riding reports from you? ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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