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PostPosted: 19:09 - 24 Feb 2020    Post subject: South African Civil Discourse going Souther fast. Reply with quote
I work with several South Africans.
They say their government is corrupt. (African)
White Farmers are targeted by gangs of thieves who are claiming the land is for black South Africans and the white man stole it first.

There is something about to kick off.
Presently civil disobedience is limited to whites discussing not paying corporate tax and not working for corrupt corporations.

It's very complex but the people I've seen talking must forget that before Mandela the stick was in the white man's hand.

I think those complaining were too young to remember.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 24 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
You either end the racism and violence or you propagate it.

Saying it's OK for blacks to be racist because whites were before might be something that the Abbopotamus or Lammy advocate over here, or Ramaphosa (or any member of the ANC) says over there but all it is is people trying to justify their own racism.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 25 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Who said it belonged to the Blacks in the first place? Who did they take it off to claim it as theirs?
Racism works both ways, but it does seem that the whites can organise things a bit better. SA is just a time bomb waiting to go off and then mass famine.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 25 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Who said it belonged to the Blacks in the first place? Who did they take it off to claim it as theirs?
Racism works both ways, but it does seem that the whites can organise things a bit better. SA is just a time bomb waiting to go off and then mass famine.


It'll never be poor like Zimbabwe because it has natural resources but civil war, drive out the whites? Almost certain.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 25 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It'll never be poor like Zimbabwe because it has natural resources but civil war, drive out the whites? Almost certain.


Followed by missapropriation of those natural resources and poor people still gonna be poor. The only difference will be that the oppressor won't have white skin.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 25 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Saying it's OK for blacks to be racist because whites were before might be something that the Abbopotamus or Lammy advocate over here.


If that was the case then we would be justified in launching a full scale invasion of Italy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 25 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If that was the case then we would be justified in launching a full scale invasion of Italy Thumbs Up


Done that, only we called it World War II.
I guess if we wanted reparations because Romans, then we had our chance.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 25 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Romans did a lot of good things for us though (cue sketch).

I wouldn't call an Italian racist for pointing that out.
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I hope you're not implying Romans are Italians or visa versa. Don't fall into the same trap as the Normans vs Franks fiasco Wink

When the white man was in charge randomly torturing people was frowned upon, left to the professionals like the police and politely referred to as "questioning."

The only difference between then and now is the lack of etiquette Neutral
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 26 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Don't fall into the same trap as the Normans vs Franks fiasco


I'm intrigued.

What was the nature of this fiasco, and the outcome of the debate?

My understanding is that the Normans were actually descended from vikings, the name originating from 'Northman'.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 26 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
Skudd wrote:
Who said it belonged to the Blacks in the first place? Who did they take it off to claim it as theirs?
Racism works both ways, but it does seem that the whites can organise things a bit better. SA is just a time bomb waiting to go off and then mass famine.


It'll never be poor like Zimbabwe because it has natural resources but civil war, drive out the whites? Almost certain.


The deal now for the white person is that they have made South Africa their home. For more than a hundred years.

When they started the economy based on the region's mineral wealth then the country became attractive to 'Africans' from neighbouring states and beyond.
The same issue that enabled Brexit. Sort of.
Apartheid was wrong. Old fashioned racism but the pass books were very necessary. The passbook meant it was easier to track authorised persons and control the influx of poverty from shitholes next door.
Botswana seem to be running ok if the aids epidemic is ignored. As corrupt as any African state but it seems to work and keeps it's day to day out of world headline news.
The whites would love to leave the placevsouth Africa has become but they'd be refugees instead of civilians of the really cool state the created.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
You either end the racism and violence or you propagate it.

Saying it's OK for blacks to be racist because whites were before might be something that the Abbopotamus or Lammy advocate over here, or Ramaphosa (or any member of the ANC) says over there but all it is is people trying to justify their own racism.


just out of interest I have to ask this, do you realise that you make racist comments on here?

Now keep in mind I'm not accusing you of being racist or not a nice person, I personally think you are a good old boy I'm just wondering if you realise you make racist statements.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Don't fall into the same trap as the Normans vs Franks fiasco


I'm intrigued.

What was the nature of this fiasco, and the outcome of the debate?

My understanding is that the Normans were actually descended from vikings, the name originating from 'Northman'.


Yes, 'twas another thread where French and Norman were used almost interchangeably. The point being that modern day Italians have arguably less in common with the ancient Romans than... maybe the English Smile
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
You either end the racism and violence or you propagate it.

Saying it's OK for blacks to be racist because whites were before might be something that the Abbopotamus or Lammy advocate over here, or Ramaphosa (or any member of the ANC) says over there but all it is is people trying to justify their own racism.


just out of interest I have to ask this, do you realise that you make racist comments on here?

Now keep in mind I'm not accusing you of being racist or not a nice person, I personally think you are a good old boy I'm just wondering if you realise you make racist statements.


Time for the Salem Witch Trials.

Ever read The Crucible?
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
You either end the racism and violence or you propagate it.

Saying it's OK for blacks to be racist because whites were before might be something that the Abbopotamus or Lammy advocate over here, or Ramaphosa (or any member of the ANC) says over there but all it is is people trying to justify their own racism.


just out of interest I have to ask this, do you realise that you make racist comments on here?

Now keep in mind I'm not accusing you of being racist or not a nice person, I personally think you are a good old boy I'm just wondering if you realise you make racist statements.


Of course I do, I expect if you analyse anyone's statements on here you can find anything from racist overtones to blatant racism.

Am I racist? I would say not on a personal level as I have worked all over the world with different races and cultures and I doubt I could have kept that hidden over the 40 odd years without it comeing out at sometime. I'm not a good actor.

Am I an institutionalised racist? I suspect many would say so as I think the immigration policy in the country has been terrible resulting in Britishness being a dirty word, immigrants seemingly lauded for their culture, patriotic British old white cvnts like me being called gammon. Brexiteers are racist so I'm racist as I voted for Brexit.

My comments earlier about propagating racism still stand whatever my own personal views.

A scenario I was told. 2 people go for one of those BBC jobs that will give priority to BAME. Both have good credentials, 1 Black, 1 White. So black person gets it. Now he might be the best for the job, but he was also the black person. White man goes home, tells wife I didn't get the job because there was a black man there so he got it even though I had the qualifications. Wifies is angry. He tells his kids, sorry, no holiday this year because I didn't get the job. Why not Dad? Because a black man went for it and they get priority.

Have you just sown the seeds of racism in a couple of kids (and wifie)? I bet you have and for what, just to get your virtue signalling plus points with the libtards.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
You either end the racism and violence or you propagate it.

Saying it's OK for blacks to be racist because whites were before might be something that the Abbopotamus or Lammy advocate over here, or Ramaphosa (or any member of the ANC) says over there but all it is is people trying to justify their own racism.


just out of interest I have to ask this, do you realise that you make racist comments on here?

Now keep in mind I'm not accusing you of being racist or not a nice person, I personally think you are a good old boy I'm just wondering if you realise you make racist statements.


What exactly has polarbear said in that statement that is racist?
Humour me please as I'm a bit behind the times Sad
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Of course I do, I expect if you analyse anyone's statements on here you can find anything from racist overtones to blatant racism.


Not everyone but yes over the last 5 years this forum has descended into a hot bed of racist behaviour, attitudes and isolationism, anyone who questions it has been pounced on. I do wonder if it is a reflection of the UK as a whole which if it is would sadden me.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Of course I do, I expect if you analyse anyone's statements on here you can find anything from racist overtones to blatant racism.


Not everyone but yes over the last 5 years this forum has descended into a hot bed of racist behaviour, attitudes and isolationism, anyone who questions it has been pounced on. I do wonder if it is a reflection of the UK as a whole which if it is would sadden me.


Lefties made us racist.
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Lefties made us racist despite the best part of ten years of Tory rule?
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I do wonder if it is a reflection of the UK as a whole


It's not even a reflection of the forum as a whole. (Meaning, I just prefer not to post in this subsection, and none of the views expressed here speak for me, and silence should not be taken as tacit consent or acceptance of any political position, especially extreme ones).
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Am I racist for never having sex with a black woman?
The two women I find the most beautiful are Iman and Sharron Davies.
Am I a colonial racist for wanting a Black woman?
There are races of females that I don't like, just because I don't find them attractive, they will have basic characteristics of being hairy, bug ears, massive noses, fat arses.

(Oh Gail Anne Dorsey is nice looking too)

Mohamed Ali once said "Let birds be with birds and bees with bees" But he was never called a racist.

Mahatma Gandhi believed in the cast system and keeping races apart.

If someone was drowning no matter who they were I would jump in to help and perform CPR if needed.
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Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Lefties made us racist despite the best part of ten years of Tory political rule?


FTFY Thumbs Up And I don't see what that has to do with anything. Let me define "Lefties" (for my own argument, you can come up with your own labels as you see fit.)

"Lefties" are people that see there are problems in the world. This is fine, there are always problems of fairness, inequality and so forth that do need to be addressed. However, Lefties cannot abide by incremental change, towards gradual step-by-step progress. Instead the entire edifice must be cast down and rebuilt - "We'll do it properly, this time!"

Lefties infiltrate all strata of society. Obviously they have an easy time in places like the Arts, main stream media, local government, HR departments - basically anywhere that wit and skill is not required - but that's not to say they haven't got a foot in the door with all the political parties, including the Tories.

tl;dr Lefties: reform = bad, revolution = good
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Lefties made us racist despite the best part of ten years of Tory political rule?


FTFY Thumbs Up And I don't see what that has to do with anything. Let me define "Lefties" (for my own argument, you can come up with your own labels as you see fit.)

"Lefties" are people that see there are problems in the world. This is fine, there are always problems of fairness, inequality and so forth that do need to be addressed. However, Lefties cannot abide by incremental change, towards gradual step-by-step progress. Instead the entire edifice must be cast down and rebuilt - "We'll do it properly, this time!"

Lefties infiltrate all strata of society. Obviously they have an easy time in places like the Arts, main stream media, local government, HR departments - basically anywhere that wit and skill is not required - but that's not to say they haven't got a foot in the door with all the political parties, including the Tories.

tl;dr Lefties: reform = bad, revolution = good


You seem to be confusing socialists with anarchists.
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When threads like this pop up I am given to wondering what Kradmelder is getting up to.
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When threads like this pop up I am given to wondering what Kradmelder is getting up to.


Dead I expect. And no, I'm not joking.
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