ebikes: I'm surprised it took this long :(

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51647068

[Riejufixing]

[stinkwheel]

In other news. I can easily exceed 15.5mph for a sustained period on the flat on my single speed pub bike which has no electric motor at all.

So I'd move that the motive power the idiot in question is of little relevance. He could have been going similarly fast under his own steam.

EDIT: Also, technically isn't this in the wrong section? The court has ruled the guy was riding a motorcycle, not a bicycle.
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If the guy had been legally riding a normal moped at 25mph and she ran in front of him without looking would the end result have been any different?

He's still a twat though for riding illegally.
Don't even get me started on those cnts that ride those electric scooters ( the flat board you stand on with handle bars, not a moped) on the pavement at 20mph.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51707616

Can't say justice was done in this event, not completely.

Fair enough for Not Guilty on death by careless driving as she did step out when the lights were green. However, not guilty of driving without a licence or insurance?! Can't see how either of those two are up for debate.
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He'd already pleaded guilty to the licence stuff, it was only not guilty for the causing death stuff.
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So justice is done, case closed.
He should have just bought a legal moped, taken a CBT and bought some insurance. Still would have killed the woman though.

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The French Government has this week taken steps to legislate against e-Bike tuning beyond legal limits, or those set by the manufacturer.

The ruling now enforces that individuals, retailers or manufacturers themselves may not enhance the power of an e-Bike beyond a speed of 25kmh for regular models, or 45kmh for speed pedelecs, the latter of which require licensing, insurance and a helmet with suitable standard of protection for the vehicle.

The law now coming into force legislates that, if found to have bumped an electric bike’s capability the accused will be subject to a fine of up to €30,000, or potentially a year in jail.

The e-Bike tuning law comes on the back of a high profile case in the UK where the rider of a tuned electric bike had illegally modified the motor to enable a speed of up to 30mph.

Thomas Hanlon collided with Sakine Cihan, who later succumbed to injuries sustained in hospital. In a verdict that surprised many, the court eventually cleared Hanlon, having deemed him to not be at fault for the crash itself, deeming that whether the bike was illegal or not was not relevant to the circumstances of the crash.

European bicycle trade organisation CONEBI, in tandem with AMBE of Spain, has this week issued a detailed statement reminding those under its wing of their responsibilities to keep e-Bikes within legal limits.

“If the assisted pedaling bicycle is manipulated, by modifying the power delivery or maximum operating speed of the electric auxiliary motor, or by means of kits altering these limits (allowing speed of assistance is increased above 25km / h), the bicycle becomes immediate on a motor vehicle according to Regulation (EU) 168/2013,” reads the statement. “Once manipulated, the e-Bike becomes a motor vehicle. Completely different requirements will fall on it.”

Among changes that many users of such chipped bikes may not realise are invalidation of personal insurances, loss of manufacturer’s warranty, a potential withdrawal of a driving licence, as well as other criminal offences.

In the case of retail stores the consequences again are many fold and include ties to offences made once the modified e-Bike has left the store.

These include inciting and participating in a crime once the e-Bike is used on a public space, loss of insurance coverage for your business, as well as likely invalidation of any contracts held with brands carried and later tuned.

Manufacturers such as Bosch have taken a pro-active approach to combating tuning, with the electronics giant building in to its software systems to detect modification and immobilise the vehicle.

On the flip side of the argument, LEVA-EU has pressed the case that “brute force” legislation to outlaw such vehicles skirts the reason many are opting to use them and has in fact called for a softening of laws.



https://cyclingindustry.news/french-government-lead-on-e-bike-tuning-with-threat-of-e30000-fine/

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[Nobby the Bastard]

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[Ste]

Personal insurances could be referring to any one of various different types of insurance.

[bhinso]

On the original post, if he had nothing to hide, why did he leave the scene with her lying there? "The court was told Mr Hanlon left the scene despite a passer-by trying to stop him."

It continues to amaze me that there's not more accidents/deaths involving mobility scooters.

[Ste]

The correct excuse for that is you were in shock and not thinking clearly so that's why you didn't stop but instead you reported it to the police / handed yourself in as soon as you realised what had happened.

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"Chipped" "Tuned" "Modified"

The article was written but someone who knows very little about eBikes and is just mouthing whatever Bosch tell them to.

While you could over-volt a standard 250W motor to get a bit more out of it (shortening the lifespan of the motor of course) but you'd probably have to swap out the controller to handle more power and then... well, why bother? Take the stoppers off the 15.5mph limit? Might manage 17, maybe 18 instead.
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[GettinBetter]

I have an electric bike which 'ROLLED' down a hill with no power being applied at over 40 mph......so should I have used the brakes to maintain 17mph?

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[GettinBetter]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

In my younger day I would ride a 12-speed racer full-tilt everywhere with the knowledge that I was putting myself at risk, but as a pedestrian you have to have an awareness when crossing a road. It's surprising these days how many people will just stride out with no regard. Maybe this fellow had somehow by-passed a "limiter" on his machine, but the pedestrian should have been wary of vehicles capable of similar speeds, particularly since she went against a red-man signal.

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Maybe it's something subconscious: push-bikes and eBikes look the same to the ped reptile brain as in "in the event of a crash the cyclist will probably come off worse" sort of stupidity.

A loud exhaust and a bad reputation does have some advantages - peds scatter to the sound of an Akrapovič as if it signals the arrival of the 5th horseman of the apocalypse on his chrome steed
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