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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:
Page 171 doesn't exist! It's all a lie!


How 'bout now?
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
So lets summarise:

The online dictionaries changed the definition of 'Pandemic' and removed the bit about loads of people needing to die for it to be defined as a pandemic. So now they can just quote 'cases' to justfy the term pandemic. As the control zone on the testing kits can be moved at will, the quantity of 'cases' can also rise and fall as required to maintain the 'Pandemic'. The original definition can be found in any decent paper dictionary.

The WHO added chemotherapy gene therapy to the definition of 'Vacine' so that it could be administered under the 'Emergency Use' clause, and suffer no legal retribution.

Traditional Vacines gave the recipient a mild dose of the virus, and you body was supposed to create enough antododies to fight off the full blown version. This has worked for years, mostly they got it right, except for phalidomide, but I bellieve they paid for their mistakes.

The new 'Vacines' are gene therapy and modify your systems ability to produce proteins blah blah (look it up). It is still under trial, as is most chemotherapy. But this time there is no comeback, they will not have to pay for their mistakes. Because it's being administered under the 'Emergency Use' clause.

Could this be why they are pushing it so hard, sell as much as possible in a short a time as possible? and why are they pushing an experimental drug on kids?

Jeezz this all smells...
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
You are also now more likely to die from vaccine reaction than covid e.g. Https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19333953.bbc-radio-newcastles-lisa-shaw-died-suffering-blood-clots-following-jab-family-says/
Ok the numbers getting vaccinated are higher than the number of people getting covid but she would not have died of covid at 43.
She probably would hardly have been unwell she may even have already had it.
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Islander
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
GettinBetter wrote:
So lets summarise:

The online dictionaries changed the definition of 'Pandemic' and removed the bit about loads of people needing to die for it to be defined as a pandemic. So now they can just quote 'cases' to justfy the term pandemic. As the control zone on the testing kits can be moved at will, the quantity of 'cases' can also rise and fall as required to maintain the 'Pandemic'. The original definition can be found in any decent paper dictionary.

The WHO added chemotherapy gene therapy to the definition of 'Vacine' so that it could be administered under the 'Emergency Use' clause, and suffer no legal retribution.

Traditional Vacines gave the recipient a mild dose of the virus, and you body was supposed to create enough antododies to fight off the full blown version. This has worked for years, mostly they got it right, except for phalidomide, but I bellieve they paid for their mistakes.

The new 'Vacines' are gene therapy and modify your systems ability to produce proteins blah blah (look it up). It is still under trial, as is most chemotherapy. But this time there is no comeback, they will not have to pay for their mistakes. Because it's being administered under the 'Emergency Use' clause.

Could this be why they are pushing it so hard, sell as much as possible in a short a time as possible? and why are they pushing an experimental drug on kids?

Jeezz this all smells...


Wow so much bad science in a single post - I don't know where to start. Laughing

The mRNA vaccines are neither chemotherapy nor gene therapy.

Traditional vaccines use a deactivated form a a virus in most cases, in some it's an attenuated live virus. They encourage the body to produce antibodies based on virus protein which is exactly what am mRNA vaccine does.

Thalidomide is not a vaccine nor does it use a virus. It's a very effective tranquilliser that unfortunately damaged foetuses.

Chemotherapy drugs are used under very specific licenses but they are licensed.

So much wrong. Laughing
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Islander
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
doggone wrote:
You are also now more likely to die from vaccine reaction than covid e.g. Https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19333953.bbc-radio-newcastles-lisa-shaw-died-suffering-blood-clots-following-jab-family-says/
Ok the numbers getting vaccinated are higher than the number of people getting covid but she would not have died of covid at 43.
She probably would hardly have been unwell she may even have already had it.


Aaaaaand more wrong from the usual suspects. Laughing

Having the vaccine is very low risk and the few side effects are much lower risk than the disease itself. You cannot say that someone would not have died of covid. Even a doctor cannot say that with absolute certainty.

Just wow. Are you both trying to fill a Rebel shaped hole or something. Can I point you at some juicy UFO or chemtrail conspiracy theories? Laughing
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GettinBetter
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:

Wow so much bad science in a single post - I don't know where to start. Laughing


WRONG!! Such a lot of garbage, but I do know where to start.

Islander wrote:
The mRNA vaccines are neither chemotherapy nor gene therapy.

According to this article they are https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/112/13/4924/24954/Genetic-associations-with-thalidomide-mediated

Islander wrote:
Traditional vaccines use a deactivated form a a virus in most cases, in some it's an attenuated live virus. They encourage the body to produce antibodies based on virus protein which is exactly what am mRNA vaccine does.


THATS WHAT I SAID, you're just paraphrasing, get you own material. It promotes the generation of proteins using a different mechanism. A mechanism that has no know outcome, its a trial, that can ONLY be released under the 'Emergency Use' clause, so it's good job they changed the definition.

Islander wrote:
Thalidomide is not a vaccine ....

Under the NEW definition it would be.


Islander wrote:
Chemotherapy drugs are used under very specific licenses but they are licensed. Laughing


No doubt the wording will be massaged to accomodate their agenda.

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GettinBetter
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
....Having the vaccine is very low risk and the few side effects are much lower risk than the disease itself. You cannot say that someone would not have died of covid. Even a doctor cannot say that with absolute certainty.....


It took 5 years to associate the phalidomide drug with its effects, and you have the audacity to say it's low risk after barely a year. Are you just an echo for Fauci, who funded all this shit.

You're begining to sound like a complete bigot.

It's this reason we will never know what's really going on because they always say you can't tell if they died because of the jab, exactly what they said with phalidomide.
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Islander
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
GettinBetter wrote:


WRONG!! Such a lot of garbage, but I do know where to start.


Obviously not. Laughing The stupid is strong in this one.

Islander wrote:
The mRNA vaccines are neither chemotherapy nor gene therapy.

GettinBetter wrote:
According to this article they are https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/112/13/4924/24954/Genetic-associations-with-thalidomide-mediated


That article has nothing to do with covid vaccines whatsoever. The title alone would tell anyone with a working braincell or two that. Laughing

"Genetic associations with thalidomide mediated venous thrombotic events in myeloma identified using targeted genotyping"

Not a single reference to covid or vaccine in it Laughing

GettinBetter wrote:
THATS WHAT I SAID, you're just paraphrasing, get you own material. It promotes the generation of proteins using a different mechanism. A mechanism that has no know outcome, its a trial, that can ONLY be released under the 'Emergency Use' clause, so it's good job they changed the definition.


Actually you said:

GettinBetter wrote:
Traditional Vacines gave the recipient a mild dose of the virus, and you body was supposed to create enough antododies to fight off the full blown version. This has worked for years, mostly they got it right, except for phalidomide, but I bellieve they paid for their mistakes.


Most vaccines don't give 'a mild dose of the virus' at all. They use deactivated forms of the virus which may just actually be a protein chain. A few vaccines (polio is one) use an attenuated form of the virus that can't actually cause the disease.


Islander wrote:
Thalidomide is not a vaccine ....

GettinBetter wrote:
Under the NEW definition it would be.


Erm, no it wouldn't. It's a totally different form of medication. It's a tranquilliser which bears no connection whatsoever to a vaccine or the actions of a vaccine.


Islander wrote:
Chemotherapy drugs are used under very specific licenses but they are licensed. Laughing


GettinBetter wrote:
No doubt the wording will be massaged to accomodate their agenda.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

What planet are you on?

Chemotherapy drugs are a very specific class of drugs that have been licence for years for use in specific treatment regimes. Treatment of tumours is the obvious one.

Hey guys, we have a Rebel plus here. Laughing
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
GettinBetter wrote:

It took 5 years to associate the phalidomide drug with its effects, and you have the audacity to say it's low risk after barely a year. Are you just an echo for Fauci, who funded all this shit.


The effects weren't associated with the drug but the effects were certainly apparent. We live in different times now. Lessons were learned from thalidomide, (which you will note, is spelled with a "T", not a "P") which is why the vaccination of pregnant women was approaches so cautiously.

People are actively LOOKING for adverse foetal effects associated with covid vaccination of pregnant women. They are not finding them.

I am not sure why you have quoted a study which is looking for a genetic predisposition to blood clots when cancer patients are treated with thalidomide. The study was looking to see if people who were predisposed to clot formation could be identified in advance by genetic markers so they wouldn't be given that treatment.

The risk to benefit profile in cancer treatments is radically different to that in other diseases. Cancer treatments often have severe and potentially fatal side effects that would be considered unacceptable in other fields. Such is the nature of these things.
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Islander
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
GettinBetter wrote:
Islander wrote:
....Having the vaccine is very low risk and the few side effects are much lower risk than the disease itself. You cannot say that someone would not have died of covid. Even a doctor cannot say that with absolute certainty.....


It took 5 years to associate the phalidomide drug with its effects, and you have the audacity to say it's low risk after barely a year. Are you just an echo for Fauci, who funded all this shit.

You're begining to sound like a complete bigot.

It's this reason we will never know what's really going on because they always say you can't tell if they died because of the jab, exactly what they said with phalidomide.


It's Thalidomide

It's a highly effective drug that's still in use. It has it's place in medicine as long as it's not used to treat morning sickness or any other conditions in pregnant women - it was that specific treatment that caused the problems.

Also, you need to learn a little history about the testing and licensing of drugs before you shoot your mouth off in ignorance. It was the Thalidomide scandal that led to drug testing and licensing reform and specifically the Medicines Act 1968 - it also changed FDA regulations in the states and regulations in other countries as well. Since then we've had highly controlled testing and licensing - the covid vaccines aren't even close to being a valid parallel to that.
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Islander
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
GettinBetter wrote:

It took 5 years to associate the phalidomide drug with its effects, and you have the audacity to say it's low risk after barely a year. Are you just an echo for Fauci, who funded all this shit.


The effects weren't associated with the drug but the effects were certainly apparent. We live in different times now. Lessons were learned from thalidomide, (which you will note, is spelled with a "T", not a "P") which is why the vaccination of pregnant women was approaches so cautiously.

People are actively LOOKING for adverse foetal effects associated with covid vaccination of pregnant women. They are not finding them.

I am not sure why you have quoted a study which is looking for a genetic predisposition to blood clots when cancer patients are treated with thalidomide. The study was looking to see if people who were predisposed to clot formation could be identified in advance by genetic markers so they wouldn't be given that treatment.

The risk to benefit profile in cancer treatments is radically different to that in other diseases. Cancer treatments often have severe and potentially fatal side effects that would be considered unacceptable in other fields. Such is the nature of these things.


All of this^^^
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Ste
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
GettinBetter wrote:
You're begining to sound like a complete bigot.

GettinBetter wrote:
Vacine

GettinBetter wrote:
Vacines

GettinBetter wrote:
'Vacines'

Eh?

You can't spell vaccine yet you're trying to school us about vaccines?

Surely you can see how that looks? Laughing

Or have you just copied and pasted stuff?

Oh and who the fuck told you that vaccines are gene therapy? Laughing
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Oh and who the fuck told you that vaccines are gene therapy? Laughing

The bloke from BG Products.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Professional nitpickers extracting the parts that serve their purpose, worse than the MSM editing for their own agendas.

Never be surprised at the existence of large groups of stupid people. Fuck we need a good war. Darwinism isn't working fast enough.
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GettinBetter wrote:
Professional nitpickers extracting the parts that serve their purpose, worse than the MSM editing for their own agendas.

Never be surprised at the existence of large groups of stupid people. Fuck we need a good war. Darwinism isn't working fast enough.


Well it's good that you've seen and admitted to your character flaws. It's always the first step to recovery. Laughing
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GettinBetter wrote:
Professional nitpickers extracting the parts that serve their purpose, worse than the MSM editing for their own agendas.

Never be surprised at the existence of large groups of stupid people. Fuck we need a good war. Darwinism isn't working fast enough.


*blinks*

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PostPosted: 22:07 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
kramdra wrote:
Pee is anything but sterile. Sterile with reference to yourself yes, you cant catch anything you havent already got. It is the bodies waste and can contain numerous bacteria from baldder/nob flora and infections. If you are unlucky with stones, as I was last year, it can also be a bit bloody Shocked

A distinction needs to be made between pointing your piss hole and washing your hands in it.


Urine is sterile. It's been filtered from your blood through your kidneys. I do bacterial cultures on urine all the time. If I find bacteria in it, there is a problem.

If you have bacteria in your bladder, it is called cystitis, this is abnormal and you need to go and see the doctor who will prescribe you some antibiotics. You'll be able to recognise bacteria in your bladder by the sensation like you are pissing broken glass mixed with chilli sauce.

There may be a few commensal bacteria lining the urethra, but in lower numbers that will be found on the rest of your skin.


So urine is more sterile than a puddle on a bus shelter pavement.


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Yes. Unless there's something wrong with you.


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PostPosted: 22:24 - 28 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
GettinBetter wrote:
Professional nitpickers extracting the parts that serve their purpose, worse than the MSM editing for their own agendas.

Never be surprised at the existence of large groups of stupid people. Fuck we need a good war. Darwinism isn't working fast enough.


Kalm yer jets ya kuhnt. (Senator Rand Paul.)

It's discussion and discourse we are aiming for.

There is too much shite to steer through.

Be careful taking things at face value or trying intuition. That's what got us into religion and all the accursed Horseshite that produces.

Peer Reviews are where the stronger theories are tested and agreed upon.

Experts in particular fields read published papers and determine what's what whether the logic safe.
Experiment and study etc. required if possible.

There is certain mutually agreed discipline involved in this process.

And peers need not be you mate from down the Nag's Head.

Much shite is being pumped out into the public domain by idiots, fanatics, idiots, weirdos, religious freaks, the russian gov.commrade and many other players.

One must test ones sources.

Even Wikipedia gets it wrong. Shocked
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There could be an argument to say we shouldn't be vaccinating people and just let them die... survival of the fittest and all that. All these improvements in nutrition and medicine and where has it got us? Eh? EH?

I tell you: from 1 billion to >6 billion people in a century Shocked That can't be good!

Granted an extra 5 billion people means there's a chance that some of them might be super intelligent and come up with some really clever shit but honestly, progress is overrated. I think people would be much happier just toiling in the fields 18 hours a day. 35 hour weeks?! The devil makes work for idle hands! It's why we have so much moral degeneracy...
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Easy-X wrote:
There could be an argument to say we shouldn't be vaccinating people and just let them die... survival of the fittest and all that. All these improvements in nutrition and medicine and where has it got us? Eh? EH?

I tell you: from 1 billion to >6 billion people in a century Shocked That can't be good!

Granted an extra 5 billion people means there's a chance that some of them might be super intelligent and come up with some really clever shit but honestly, progress is overrated. I think people would be much happier just toiling in the fields 18 hours a day. 35 hour weeks?! The devil makes work for idle hands! It's why we have so much moral degeneracy...


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GettinBetter wrote:
Professional nitpickers extracting the parts that serve their purpose, worse than the MSM editing for their own agendas.

Never be surprised at the existence of large groups of stupid people. Fuck we need a good war. Darwinism isn't working fast enough.


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Page 172 is a lie also!
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No it's not. Its just resolved itself to its actual position because you tried to observe it.
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