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PostPosted: 16:52 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Informing insurance?? Reply with quote

Hmmm I need sage advice or failing that BCF opinion please.

A couple of months ago I had the worlds slowest and tiniest accident in the car.
Short story: I bumped the car in front of me at about 3mph max at a junction.
The result of this was absolutely no damage to my car and I could see no damage to her car (I took photos straight away).
I asked all her passengers if they were okay and they all said yes .
Nobody started holding thier neck or any of that nonsense.

However the other driver informed that she WILL be informing her insurers.
When I got home I inform my insurance company.
I haven’t heard a thing since, no e-mail, phone call or letters.

My question is oh mighty BCF, is do I need to tell my bike insurance company about this when I renew my bike insurance?
The reason I ask is bikes.....cars different insurance companies.....different modes of transport.
Apparently no actions taken?
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Informing insurance?? Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Hmmm I need sage advice or failing that BCF opinion please.

A couple of months ago I had the worlds slowest and tiniest accident in the car.
Short story: I bumped the car in front of me at about 3mph max at a junction.
The result of this was absolutely no damage to my car and I could see no damage to her car (I took photos straight away).
I asked all her passengers if they were okay and they all said yes .
Nobody started holding thier neck or any of that nonsense.

However the other driver informed that she WILL be informing her insurers.
When I got home I inform my insurance company.
I haven’t heard a thing since, no e-mail, phone call or letters.

My question is oh mighty BCF, is do I need to tell my bike insurance company about this when I renew my bike insurance?
The reason I ask is bikes.....cars different insurance companies.....different modes of transport.
Apparently no actions taken?


Theoretically yes, practically no. Legally? There is lots of case law surrounding the answers that you must give to the vague questions asked by your insewerers.

Don't worry about it.

I appreciate that such a vague answer may be absolutely no help at all.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother myself but I wouldn't have told my car insurers either for that.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I wouldn't bother myself but I wouldn't have told my car insurers either for that.


I agree, however the other party/she was insistent that she was going to inform her insurance company and make a claim?, for what I have no idea?
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
I agree, however the other party/she was insistent that she was going to inform her insurance company and make a claim?, for what I have no idea?

Whiplash injury I expect Rolling Eyes
The fact that you haven't heard anything in 2 months probably means she though better of committing insurance fraud and never bothered contacting her insurer, which if so would mean that you wouldn't have needed to either.

Having notified your insurer of an incident though, I'm not sure I agree with the advice that you don't need to mention it to your bike insurers at renewal. It was an incident, and it will have been logged into the insurer's database. If you don't declare it, you'll never know whether it was the correct decision until the day you have to claim on your car insurance...
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had my bike insurance cancelled because of an "undisclosed accident". There was no accident, I pushed for more details as to why they thought there was, and they replied they couldn't say. I asked what vehicle I was supposed to have had the accident in, and they finally let me know it was my Golf. Which I have never had an accident in. More pushing, and I got a date out of them.

I'd had a stonechip repaired by Autoglass.

Notify them in the slightest, they'll hold it against you.
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I'd had a stonechip repaired by Autoglass.
Notify them in the slightest, they'll hold it against you.

QED. Fuck's sake though... and did they condescend to 'uncancel' your policy or did that stand?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:


Notify them in the slightest, they'll hold it against you.


Yer that’s what I am thinking sort of.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I'd had a stonechip repaired by Autoglass.
Notify them in the slightest, they'll hold it against you.

QED. Fuck's sake though... and did they condescend to 'uncancel' your policy or did that stand?


Nope, their "broker would no longer offer a policy". I went elsewhere.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you tell them you'd had a policy cancelled?
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 01 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I'd had a stonechip repaired by Autoglass.

Notify them in the slightest, they'll hold it against you.

Normally, Autoglass etc will take your insurance details, charge the insurer direct, and repairs (rather than replacement) don't affect anything, AFAIK. Was this a while ago?
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PostPosted: 04:34 - 02 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

ANY Accidents, Claims and/or Convictions within the last 5 years.

Whether they do anything about it (Load the policy or refuse cover) is up to the insurer/broker.

Having insurance refused or canceled is an issue too....

The bastirts..
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other way around, parked bike damaged in hit and run, claimed on my insurance. Insured car and disclosed claim to be told that it didn’t matter as it was bike related and wouldn’t affect the car. Also disclosed when renewing the insurance on the tin snail, was told it wouldn’t effect the policy, but don’t have another accident as it then would. Both Aviva.

I would tell them personally
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably on the database - I'd tell them. Unlikely to have much, if any, effect on your premium. In reality it'll probably move you into a slightly higher risk group (as someone who's had a bump is probably statistically more likely to have another, irrespective of the mode of transport).

Frustrating, but not as frustrating as being involved a significant claim and your insurer pulls out leaving you personally liable for all costs (plus criminal charges such as riding without valid insurance etc. etc.).
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:
It's probably on the database - I'd tell them. Unlikely to have much, if any, effect on your premium. In reality it'll probably move you into a slightly higher risk group (as someone who's had a bump is probably statistically more likely to have another, irrespective of the mode of transport).

Frustrating, but not as frustrating as being involved a significant claim and your insurer pulls out leaving you personally liable for all costs (plus criminal charges such as riding without valid insurance etc. etc.).


Once again, insurance companies are prevented by (case) law from retrospectively voiding third party insurance.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

[mistake - didn't read properly]

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PostPosted: 15:29 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
ThunderGuts wrote:
It's probably on the database - I'd tell them. Unlikely to have much, if any, effect on your premium. In reality it'll probably move you into a slightly higher risk group (as someone who's had a bump is probably statistically more likely to have another, irrespective of the mode of transport).

Frustrating, but not as frustrating as being involved a significant claim and your insurer pulls out leaving you personally liable for all costs (plus criminal charges such as riding without valid insurance etc. etc.).


Once again, insurance companies are prevented by (case) law from retrospectively voiding third party insurance.


But they can claim any costs they have to pay off you can they not?
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

In theory yes, in practise I don't think there are any examples of that happening.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends how they ask too. You may be able to make them ask in a convenient manner:.

"Any accidents or claims in the last 5 years?"

"Bike accidents?"

"Yes."

"No. None."
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Depends how they ask too. You may be able to make them ask in a convenient manner:.

"Any accidents or claims in the last 5 years?"

"Bike accidents?"

"Yes."

"No. None."


I can't see them saying yes to that . . they'd probably include kitchen mishaps if you give them the opportunity
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ true.

Does farting and following thru count as an 'accident'?
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only if you were on your (motor)bike at the time. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Only if you were on your (motor)bike at the time. Thumbs Up


Don't be absurd.

Who farts when seated?

At least one cheek has to be unloaded.

(It goes back up if you sit on a fart.)
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