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seeyalater
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Mot fail for number plate margin! 3mm! crazy Reply with quote
so took the bandit for its first MOT with me owning it, its never failed an mot yet... failed it on the margin under the bottom number not being 11mm, but was 3mm out..
yes i get there's rules, but surely it would be an advisory as its a non danger item..
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
MOT examiners girlfriend probably fcuked him off last night and he's in a grump.
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seeyalater
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
MOT examiners girlfriend probably fcuked him off last night and he's in a grump.


lol possibly. was a nice guy, even said "you will think im a twat" but vosa been onto him about number plates.. still... wont be going there again
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just spend a tenner on a legal one that you fit for MOTs.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
derp wrote:
surely it would be an advisory as its a non danger item

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/0-identification-of-the-vehicle
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/823552/vehicle-registration-numbers-and_number-plates-inf104.pdf
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
You must have cut him up at a traffic light or something and he remembered the bike..... 3mm Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just spend a tenner on a legal one that you fit for MOTs.


Indeed. Take a bike in for its ticket you know is going to fail and expect tester to pass it - well, that's asking him to risk his job for you; however little risk you think there is to it.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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vosa been onto him about number plates.. still... wont be going there again

VOSA or Trading Standards probably told all the local places to stick to ze rules. They do occasional purges.

When I book the Kawasaki in I always ask whether I need to put the OE can on. Most times it's no unless there's been a cautionary letter recently. It's not much bother to me, although I did have to get the OE can from a breakers years ago because the Remus came with the bike.

My neighbour is a police motorcyclist but his own bike has a small plate and twin Yoshimuras.
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seeyalater
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just spend a tenner on a legal one that you fit for MOTs.


Indeed. Take a bike in for its ticket you know is going to fail and expect tester to pass it - well, that's asking him to risk his job for you; however little risk you think there is to it.


your assuming I knew the plate was wrong. I didnt. it passed every mot its ever had, and i was told if a new plate was fitted, it certainly doesnt look new. i drove 15 miles to get it tested so if id known would have avoided having to re visit.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just spend a tenner on a legal one that you fit for MOTs.


youve missed the point mate
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Leearchertog wrote:
vosa been onto him about number plates.. still... wont be going there again

VOSA or Trading Standards probably told all the local places to stick to ze rules. They do occasional purges.

When I book the Kawasaki in I always ask whether I need to put the OE can on. Most times it's no unless there's been a cautionary letter recently. It's not much bother to me, although I did have to get the OE can from a breakers years ago because the Remus came with the bike.

My neighbour is a police motorcyclist but his own bike has a small plate and twin Yoshimuras.


that seems to be the case, but i am surprised its not an advisory as its non dangerous. thanks for the helpful input.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Advisory? You are either following the rules regarding reg plate or not.

There are no grey areas involved. It's not like brake pads being worn near the limit.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Advisory? You are either following the rules regarding reg plate or not.

There are no grey areas involved. It's not like brake pads being worn near the limit.


like i said, I didnt know the plate was a few mm's out. Advisory's exist so why is it a shock i suggest this could be one? its not something likely to cause a danger to me or other road users.

look forward to some of you winging you have MOT issues this year as most replies here on this are just negative for the sake of it.
its 3 mm on the bottom of a number plate ffs.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
The construction and use regs are fairly straightforward and are can be found in many places on the internet. Stop being butthurt because you pushed the boundaries and found out where the limits are. Bullshit you didn’t know that plate was borderline.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Leearchertog wrote:
Advisory's exist so why is it a shock i suggest this could be one? its not something likely to cause a danger to me or other road users.


Advisorys exist to warn you about things that will become unroadworthy/illegal in the fuiture but are fine now.

Your number plate was illegal, therefore it failed.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just spend a tenner on a legal one that you fit for MOTs.


Indeed. Take a bike in for its ticket you know is going to fail and expect tester to pass it - well, that's asking him to risk his job for you; however little risk you think there is to it.


A tester you dont know too and one who’s just been caught by VOSA...
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
A tester you dont know too and one who’s just been caught by VOSA...[/quote]

yeah seems that way.. otherwise no issue.. bad timing on my part maybe. could think i was testing him. only pissed as its alot of faff for 3mm on a plate. would have took most things on the chin., cheers
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
1198 wrote:


A tester you dont know too and one who’s just been caught by VOSA...


Yes, they also take "mystery shopper" bikes with deliberate faults to MOT stations.

My local guy got had by one where they'd taken the o-ring out from under the petrol filler cap. That's now a "Major, Dangerous" fault where you wouldn't legally be allowed to ride the bike home.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isn’t there more pages in the mot rules about number plates than brakes or is that an old wives tale?
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
1198 wrote:


A tester you dont know too and one who’s just been caught by VOSA...


Yes, they also take "mystery shopper" bikes with deliberate faults to MOT stations.

My local guy got had by one where they'd taken the o-ring out from under the petrol filler cap. That's now a "Major, Dangerous" fault where you wouldn't legally be allowed to ride the bike home.


The place I’ve started using (post house move) had just had a fisting for not picking up on a number plate light not working. It’s not really a surprise that when I turned up on a bike that was close to the line on a few things he had to fail me when my number plate light was buggered. It’s a black and white issue, it works or it doesn’t, hence you pass or you don’t. He couldn’t have been more helpful in helping me get it sorted, I now use there and there alone and he is now more ‘pragmatic’ now he knows I’m not a mystery punter. The rules are pretty clear, he followed them.
Your bloke had / has no reason to stick his neck out for a person he didn’t know, especially so soon after an inspection by VOSA. You can’t blame him...
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
O/P I’ve sent you a PM.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
My local place the first time I called for an MOT he said right off "Your bike has a legal plate doesn't it? If it doesn't then don't bring it for MOT coz if it's not 100% legal it'll fail."

I've been using him for years now and he's always sound but at the time he had been given a shoe-ing for it by VOSA because a bike he had recently MOT'd got a pull and the rider said "It passed the MOT like it mate".
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Totally with the OP on this one. If the lettering is standard size, who cares if the margin is 3mm off? If you can spot that at 10-15 metres away at 60mph then good on ya ...
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 29 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well I took my 612 bullet in for an MOT on Thursday. It has a smart aluminium "show plate" on but I took it off and put the manky old standard plate back on for the test.
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