CBT query

[Hanksalot]

Newbie question!

Hi,

Do I need to pass my CBT in order to ride a 70cc bike on the roads with an L plate?

Thanks in advance,
Hank

[davebike]

Yes your provisional licence is invalid until you complete CBT it is a training day not a test !
You can fail to complete if you not reaching the standard regarded as safe to be on the road !

Most complete in a day

READ the highway code before you go !
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[Andy_Pagin]

Presumably you hold a provisional motorcycle licence as a 70cc bike is a motorcycle not a moped.
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[Hanksalot]

[Ste]

Yes you need a CBT to ride a 70cc bike on the roads.

[Andy_Pagin]

[Nobby the Bastard]

If you have a full motorbike license you dont need a cbt.

If you have a provisional motorbike license you need to do cbt.

If you dont have a provisional motorbike license you cant ride it regardless.

If you have a moped license its irrelevant cause it's not a moped.
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[Teflon-Mike]

AFAIK, Yes, you need a CBT.

A motorbike is a motorbike, regardless of the size of fire hole in the engine, or even if it has an 'engine'. e-bikes are motorbikes too... so are scooters and mopeds. Whether they have a step-through frame, or pedals or how big the wheels are makes no odds. It has powered wheel, its a motor-vehicle and Road-Traffic-Act and Construction and Use laws apply.

MOPEDs.. something of a special case... the entitlement for a moped is AM on the licence and I think it's still awarded for passing a car driving test.. B~U~T a 'moped' has strict definition in C&U reg's, and if it has an internal combustion engine, MUST be less than 50cc, and cannot be capable than more than about 30mph.

If you dig into the regs there's a bunch of exceptions, and many of them come with what's known as 'Grandad Rights' if you passed your car test last century, but they probably wont apply.

As far as you are concerned, even IF you were granted AM entitlement for passing car tests, the 'moped' 50cc/30mph entitlement is still only validated with a CBT cert, and if you are ever challenged you have to present the CBT cert with your licence to show that it IS valid. So dont loose it!

B~U~T you are talking about a 70cc motorcycle.... that begs a motorcycle licence, like any other, for which you have to take motorbike tests, the start of which begs you do a CBT course and gain the DL1967 certificate of 'satisfactory' completion, to ride it unsupervised, as a Learner on L-Plates for the validity of the DL196.. two years.

And worth mentioning, the full suite of tests for full motorcycle entitlement, Theory/Hazard, Mod 1 and Mod 2 practicals, only cost aprox £150, about as much as a single repeat CBT-course... is you self book and dont go through a school on a DAS style course... so worth the doing.... b~u~t.... test regs demand they must be done on a bike meeting the regs for the licence entitlement you wish to obtain. A1 is the 125 'only' entitlement, and easiest to do, but it still begs a bike OVER 120cc and capable of at least 55mph... which a 70 doesn't meet on at least one count. So, if doing it on the cheaps, may be worth pondering, whether the 70 is the best tool for the job, and a full 125 you could take A1 tests on, DIY, might have more merit, and be better long term investment. Otherwise, like I said tests cost the same regardless, though A2 or full 'A' entitlement, for a larger engine'd bike tend to beg a DAS course to provide first the test eligible bigger bike, and an instructor to full fill legal req's of 'supervision' to the test center. Depending on your ambitions/aspirations, you may be as well off saving for a full DAS course, and maybe saving the 70, if still viable/useful just for unsupervised learning or commuting.

B~U~T..... basic answer is that you almost certainly MUST do a CBT course to ride a 70, 'legally' on UK roads.

Its probably a good idea to, anyway... I mean, would you go swimming in shark infested waters without having lessons first? I mean, "Well I got wet in the bath last week" Isn't quite the same thing, really, but that's sort of the analogy here... A motorbike may have an engine and physically shift a person along the same roads like a car might... but its not really the same thing.... far from it.
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