Priti Patel

[Islander]

The Civil Service is meant to advise as well as serve and they have to do so in a professional and politically impartial way. It's perfectly normal for a Permanent Secretary to disagree and argue with their minister in fact, it's expected, they're there to provide advice based on their years of experience in the job. On the whole, the service is very good at what they do although, as with any sector of society, you'll get the occasional problem character normally this isn't in the higher positions though.

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[Easy-X]

There are people that people that design machinery - e.g. Think Tanks, advisers, ppl like Dominic Cummings

There are people that make the machinery - the Government and Parliament

There are people that step in when the machinery goes wrong - the Courts and Judiciary

There are people that operate the machinery - the Civil Service. Could you argue that as they operate the machinery they run the country? Should machine operators have the right to comment on the design, manufacture and repair of their machines? Would we be horrified if a machine operator, unbeknown to the designers and makers, modifies the machinery for more efficient operation?

And finally there are people that know nothing about the design, manufacture, repair or operation of complex machinery but still feel the need to pump out machinery reviews - these would be the Main Stream Media
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[stinkwheel]

From having spent time around the armed forces, I can verify it is possible for a subordinate who does not agree with their superiors objectives to do exactly what they are told while still being unbelievably obstructive.

While I have never been close to that branch of the civil service, I could see senior home office civil servants having a clear idea of how they believe things should be done (perhaps because that's how they have always been done) and becoming downright obstructive if they believe the instructions they are receiving are wrong.

I still think there probably is an underlying effort to have Patel removed by people adept at political manouvering. It can be as simple as coming to her with petty, minor issues they should be dealing with themselves until she shouts at them in frustration, then report her for bullying. I've seen it done in offices when they want rid of a new manager they don't like. The civil service is a huge office.
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[stinkwheel]

[Diggs]

Of course, she could be an obnoxious piece of work with no empathy and the interpersonal skills of a spoiled child... Having seen her interviewed, she does come across as supremely smug and the sort of person I would hate to be managed by in any given situation. Respect has to be earned and perhaps she hasn't got enough about her to realise this?

The upper echelons of the Civil Service are a conservative bunch waiting for the honours list and comfortable retirement. Upset that applecart and they are bound to react badly. She just needs to apply a little humility and humanity, and I'm sure they will fall back into line. Remember, they will still be here when she's gone...
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[Lord Percy]

[wr6133]

Priti Patel, fat and not a looker. Why do I want to shove my knob in her?

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[Nobby the Bastard]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Lord Percy]

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[bhinso]

[Hetzer]

[Easy-X]

[Polarbear]

[MCN]

Japan and Jerminy are a result of a massive cash injection after they started and lost WWII.

It would be difficult to fail when you start with nothing and a big pot of cash.

I glossed over some details but they did get a massive leg up.
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Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN.

[Polarbear]

[bhinso]

Except for France.

Wanted to give Germany a right whopping in the post WW1 treaty of Versailles, and it came back to bite it. Ended up compensating by post WWII Anglophobia.

[cdlxxvi]

[bhinso]

Citation needed.

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[MCN]