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ThunderGuts
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Responsible biking? Reply with quote

No, not the biking itself . . . but what's responsible in the light of the current coronavirus situation?

I don't see any issue with riding solo (at the moment at least) - OK, so you could argue if you come off you're contributing to the load at the hospital but hopefully it's pretty unlikely. But how about riding with a mate? While actually riding you're obviously "socially distanced" but inevitably you pull over occasionally and have chinwag . . . is that acceptable? What about grabbing a brew . . . so I think sitting in at a Cafe is probably not very responsible . . . but what about getting a brew to take outside? Where do we draw the line? Or is this summer going to effectively be an extension of the winter as far as biking is concerned? Sad
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a flask and sandwiches, keep your gloves on and use pay at pump. Zero interaction with the great unwashed.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Responsible biking? Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:
what's responsible in the light of the current coronavirus situation?

You should put a Donk on it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Take a flask and sandwiches, keep your gloves on and use pay at pump. Zero interaction with the great unwashed.

Which is exactly how me and a mate will be spending Sunday. I will be taking a collapsible stick with me to ensure he keeps the requisite 6 feet away from me whenever we stop for a breather.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess consultant orthopaedic surgeons will be sat twiddling their thumbs.

I will be riding my motorcycle.

I am also going to go camping with a group of mates next weekend. We were going to be going in a hostel.

I look forwards to having a wide selection of wild camping sites with plentiful wood.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Responsible biking? Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

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PostPosted: 19:43 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we want to stop the virus everyone stays exactly where they are for two weeks Shocked

Realistically though it's best to not be rubbing shoulders with the great unwashed. Biking itself with a few mates would be very low risk... unless you have very stoopid mates:

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PostPosted: 20:24 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm genuinely of the oppinion that even if one of my mates has it, I'm not going to catch it off them by going camping with them. It's outside and the closest we'll get is sitting round a fire (which has its own positive effects in terms of local air circulation).

Main risk is picking up the wrong beer. And nae passing round of funny-shaped cigarettes, roll your own..
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Take a flask and sandwiches, keep your gloves on and use pay at pump. Zero interaction with the great unwashed.

You’re right, however it does seem a bit pah!
Sad times Sad .

That said, if I go out on the bike, I know I’ll be on my own.
Everyone round here who has a bike I know are bigger pussies than me Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If going out, can anyone account for every interaction of every other person for the last 15 days?
Or rather, has every person that will be interacted with been in isolation for 15 days?

Almost certainly no.

The virus can spread via air, so simply not touching things isn't a guarantee to not get it.


Reuters reports the army have been brought in to transport bodies out of Lombardy because the crematoriums are overrun.

"Unfortunately we can’t contain the situation in Lombardy. There’s a high level of contagion and we’re not even counting the dead any more"


In the end though. We don't really know the exact risk levels. And we want to do things and see people.

Avoiding enclosed space, keeping outside, avoiding anyone with a cough or sore throat, washing hands, not touching face or food etc

For now, that seems as good as we can do without either more information (that no one has) or draconian rules imposed.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:


The virus can spread via air, so simply not touching things isn't a guarantee to not get it.


Do you have a trustworthy source for that? Only I was under the impression it was either spread by droplets from respiration, or on contact. Hence the 2 metre spacing diktat.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can be spread by air if you inhale the infected droplets.

So as long as you don't go doing that then the risk is reduced.

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PostPosted: 22:55 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
It can be spread by air if you inhale the infected droplets.


Yeah, it's just the way he worded it didn't seem all that clear to me. Never mind.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Responsible biking? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:44 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:


The virus can spread via air, so simply not touching things isn't a guarantee to not get it.


No, it can spread by droplet. A very different thing and with a much shorter range. You'd need to be close enough to inhale droplets coughed up by someone else.

If it was airborne, there would be no point in doing anything other than wait to catch it.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If it was airborne, there would be no point in doing anything other than wait to catch it.

No point doing anything but I hope you didn't miss last orders tonight. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 20 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

No point doing anything but I hope you didn't miss last orders tonight. Laughing


I did not. Had steak and chips washed down with plenty of cider.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

All current distancing measure are still just to slow in down. Its not going to be eliminated so they say. Remove the measures and it comes back.
Current thinking appears to be to let it out in 'waves', periodically lifting the measures allowing more people to catch it, building up some kind of resistance and easing the pressure on NHS..

Meanwhle no-one really knows how many have had it without knowing (asymptomatic cases). Testing to see who's had it will be a key mlestone if it can achieved throughout the population and I think will allow us to bounce back quicker.
There must also be many man hours being wasted (albeit understandably) by those self-isolating 'just in case'.

PS As much chance of catching it in Aldi wrestling over a tin of beans than in my local I reckon..
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Responsible biking? Reply with quote

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Very funny.

Word up.

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They are still searching for images of a nameless cock.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

back to the original question. does a helmet and full leather suit offer full protection?

I know that those mouth masks people don't do much, as they don't protect the eyes and mouth, but a helmet hopefully does?

why does not everyone start wearing bike helmets? Thinking

i want to see boris johnson with a bikers helmet on giving a daily update about the virus
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

WreckTangle wrote:
I know that those mouth masks people don't do much, as they don't protect the eyes and mouth, but a helmet hopefully does?

Well, a visored helmet stops you from casually touching your face with your mucky hands all the time so that's good. And that's the main mode of infection. But when you inhale, that air's still got to some from somewhere, which is through cracks around the visor and up around the neck and jaw. And there's plenty of room for virus particles to get through those gaps, so if someone with the lurgy has just coughed or exhaled close by you, that's you screwed, innit?
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

WreckTangle wrote:
back to the original question. does a helmet and full leather suit offer full protection?

I know that those mouth masks people don't do much, as they don't protect the eyes and mouth, but a helmet hopefully does?

why does not everyone start wearing bike helmets? Thinking

i want to see boris johnson with a bikers helmet on giving a daily update about the virus


How many times have you been outside riding on a motorcycle?
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over my way there's been zero change in the habits of most of the general public.

Town centre, market day, heaving as normal (I was driving through, in my car, on my own!).

As for the topic in question... I've been out trekking in the Dales today (best social isolation you can get!) and on the way out there passed at least two groups of motorcyclists. And cyclists.

Nobody seems to care at all around here. It doesn't bode well for the coming weeks.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 21 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Pigeon wrote:


The virus can spread via air, so simply not touching things isn't a guarantee to not get it.


No, it can spread by droplet. A very different thing and with a much shorter range. You'd need to be close enough to inhale droplets coughed up by someone else.

If it was airborne, there would be no point in doing anything other than wait to catch it.



I read weeks ago that it travelled via aerosolisation (droplets that travel in the air), apologies for not making the distinction.

However a link I used earlier NHS site

Currently this virus is classified as a High Consequence Infectious Diseases (HCID) transmitted by the airborne route

Coupled with various reports like this

study awaiting peer review from scientists at Princeton University, the University of California-Los Angeles and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) posted online Wednesday indicated that the COVID-19 virus could remain viable in the air "up to 3 hours post aerosolization," while remaining alive on plastic and other surfaces for up to three days.

If you can walk into a room 3 hours after someone else has been in there, and catch it....


But yes. Its via aerosolisation.
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