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PostPosted: 19:42 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Something good from electric cars? Reply with quote

Nice and simple summary of an interesting engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsXRIEZ1qGE

You may have heard of Freevalve (cam-less pneumatic valve actuators) and it seems the first production engine is in a hybrid sports car.

Check this:

3-cylinder, 12 valve, 2.0 litre, twin turbo in a small package... 600hp Shocked

Wow! Imagine your Triumph with one of these babies!!!
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google ''CVVD Engine''.

The Koenigsegg freevalve system is sure interesting, but being all fly by wire (no physical concetion to anything), I can't see that type of engine head being mass produced any time soon, definitely not in a interference engine (pistons can touch the valves, if something goes wrong).

Speaking of EVs, how's the public chargers situation in the UK doing these days? Our (CZE) local power distributors started using the ''real'' rates for charging, so driving an EV is now even more expensive, in ''fuel'', than covering the same distance in a petrol/diesel ICE car, let alone all the alternative fuels, such as CNG, LPG and other variants. And on that note, ha-ha to all the ''but it's cheaper to run an EV'' people.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Something good from electric cars? Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Nice and simple summary of an interesting engine

The twat says "RPMs".
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Something good from electric cars? Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Nice and simple summary of an interesting engine

The twat says "RPMs".


Mmm, info-lite Neutral

Bit more in depth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJIFgG-dTKQ


Whoops! I thought that was the electric one, soz!
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? Have you been drinking?
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
What? Have you been drinking?


Erm... maybe Wasted
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:
What? Have you been drinking?

Erm... maybe Wasted

I'm not trying to be rude. As you know, I never drink, but I just didn't understand what you said.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 11 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's this got to do with electric cars or power trains for them or bikes?

1, Do you seriously think that at this stage of ICE glide down development slope, that bike manufacturers are going to spend billions on producing twin turbo or twin charged camless engine designs? They'll never get their money back now.

2, Camless petrol engines have been around for ages now, and several manufacturers have had working engines, prototypes, collaborations and production engines available for over a decade. There's several ways of doing camless engine designs and hydraulic, pneumatic, electromagnetic etc are all possible.

3, Bikes and cars have never been more different. First of all bikes are still way behind car industry standards with regards to the emissions standard they have to meet. We are still easily in an era where forced induction for emissions is not needed to meet emissions legislation, and where emissions limits are not limiting bike engine performance severely enough to make getting the required power density impossible with NA designs.

Bikes have also been exempted from the 2035 petrol vehicle ban and so I firmly believe that bike manufacturers will go from euro 5 standards to electric power in one direct hit without hybrid or very complicated emissions lead ICE development for no performance benefit.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
What's this got to do with electric cars or power trains for them or bikes?

1, Do you seriously think that at this stage of ICE glide down development slope, that bike manufacturers are going to spend billions on producing twin turbo or twin charged camless engine designs? They'll never get their money back now.

2, Camless petrol engines have been around for ages now, and several manufacturers have had working engines, prototypes, collaborations and production engines available for over a decade. There's several ways of doing camless engine designs and hydraulic, pneumatic, electromagnetic etc are all possible.

3, Bikes and cars have never been more different. First of all bikes are still way behind car industry standards with regards to the emissions standard they have to meet. We are still easily in an era where forced induction for emissions is not needed to meet emissions legislation, and where emissions limits are not limiting bike engine performance severely enough to make getting the required power density impossible with NA designs.

Bikes have also been exempted from the 2035 petrol vehicle ban and so I firmly believe that bike manufacturers will go from euro 5 standards to electric power in one direct hit without hybrid or very complicated emissions lead ICE development for no performance benefit.


Well yes, I just thought: no, Suzuki aren't going to spend mega-bucks developing a new engine for the "Supa-Busa" or whatever the next one is but if someone's already done all the hard work and got stuff into production...

Apologies, once I've had a few beers I tend to be optimistic about life. I'll try and down some more and see if things even out Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
I'm not trying to be rude. As you know, I never drink, but I just didn't understand what you said.


No worries, I don't understand much of what I've said at this point...
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Re: Something good from electric cars? Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Wow! Imagine your Triumph with one of these babies!!!


I'd like it in my Wife's IQ. Imagine the face of an M5 owner when a motorised roller skate leaves them sniffing burnt rubber off the lights Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
What? Have you been drinking?


He's been at the Hand Sanitizer stockpile. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still not a patch on the Wankel engine.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

oi - no need for that sort of language m8
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
oi - no need for that sort of language m8


Wankel Wankel Wankel Wankel Wankel Wankel Wankel Wankel Wankel.

Bastart File Bastart Files...


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PostPosted: 16:39 - 12 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:11 - 19 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwlNqaz9q_0

I knew he'd come through for us Smile (Engineering Explained)
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