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| gbrand42 wrote: | Is the lockdown actually still in effect? Doesn't seem to be here today, my road seems just as busy as usual with cars packed with whole families. I fail to believe these are all on necessary journeys. I suspect people are getting pissed off with lockdown and saying fuck it we are off out. Trouble is when the government sees the uptrend in traffic they will just extend the lockdown period so make it worse for everyone.  |
I see some medical experts are now talking about this pandemic possibly lasting for a year or more at one level or another. No way any kind of lockdown is going to work if that's the case. Just a little more than a week in and some people already showing signs of cracking. Economically speaking, it's just not going to be possible to sustain it long term. The development of an effective vaccine is the only solution. But that could be anything up to 18 months or more away.
Of course there's always the possibility of effective treatments for the symptoms coming along before a vaccine.
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| - wrote: | | Lupo wrote: | Italy 61 million (rounded up), China 1.4 billion (rounded up), over 22 times. I think the 0 was a misclick there, as 4 times is the correct figure. |
Rate - noun
a measure, quantity, or frequency, typically one measured against another quantity or measure.
China has 23 times the population of Italy, yet Italy has over 4 times the deaths of China. That makes Italy's death RATE now over 90 times higher than China.
If Italy was the size of China, at that rate, it would have over 320,000 deaths by now, compared to China's claimed 3500. |
Italy has 120000 cases of coronavirus as of now and 15000 deaths. China 82000 cases and 3400 deaths.
Seriously, so now instead of 40 is 90?
Death rate from coronavirus taking the whole population instead of those affected from the virus?
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I think what will happen after the lockdown is that the authorities, prompted by the police, will realise they quite like the idea of telling people where they can and can't go, having the power to enter premesis, disperse groups and fine people for non-compliance.
I think we'll not only find ourselves being subject to random stops and questioning about our activities but also having to justify why we are there in the first place.
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| stinkwheel wrote: | I think what will happen after the lockdown is that the authorities, prompted by the police, will realise they quite like the idea of telling people where they can and can't go, having the power to enter premesis, disperse groups and fine people for non-compliance.
I think we'll not only find ourselves being subject to random stops and questioning about our activities but also having to justify why we are there in the first place. |
That would be quite a change on the current setup. At the moment, they are not allowed to stop and search without reasonable grounds, unless special permission is granted, such as 24 hours after a stabbing in the area.
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A police officer has powers to stop and search you if they have ‘reasonable grounds’ to suspect you’re carrying:
illegal drugs
a weapon
stolen property
something which could be used to commit a crime, such as a crowbar
You can only be stopped and searched without reasonable grounds if it has been approved by a senior police officer. This can happen if it is suspected that:
serious violence could take place
you’re carrying a weapon or have used one
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| stinkwheel wrote: | I think what will happen after the lockdown is that the authorities, prompted by the police, will realise they quite like the idea of telling people where they can and can't go, having the power to enter premesis, disperse groups and fine people for non-compliance.
I think we'll not only find ourselves being subject to random stops and questioning about our activities but also having to justify why we are there in the first place. |
I don't think this will happen while we still live in a democracy. It's just a panic or cynical overreaction to think this way. We get such reactions with every major change - Brexit for example. No sensible people really thought we would become a fascist state if we left the EU. I think the powers that be will do everything to try to get things back to 'normal' asap. I hope they will keep preparedness for future such crises at a higher level than we had though.
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Covid19 and its massive effects on the economy will actually be a bigger problem to solve.
Industry could be gone. Banks close on loans. Banks bust.
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This is my worry.
The g'ment said it can "afford" to prop up the economy for 3 months, but the reality is with nobody spending in places that are closed, 50%+ of the closed businesses today won't be opening up again, every day another high street shop is starting administration, and many were still clutching CVA's and bailouts recovering from last years economy.
I expect we won't start to see a normal/stable economy until 2022, recession will be definite, question is how bad.
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What advantages is it there to release a virus in your own country, fuck up your manufacturing industry, and wait till it fucks up your customers ability to purchase? |
This, fashion retailers were already spiralling, and much of that comes through these places so the fashion industry will be shafted for ages, New Look, Arcadia and Debenhams are now bankrupt. Primark have very tight margins but were doing alright until the lockdown.
Independents are going to win here.
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I expect we won't start to see a normal/stable economy until 2022, |
Assuming Cheeeina doesn't have another "whoopsie". If it does, the West will be Mad Max. |
Well I've got my old 2-smoke (almost) running, ideal apocalypse bike according to Yammie Noob 
What would be nice is if the virus dies out through all this social distancing that everyone is doing  and then the borders are left on lock down. You can only get in via sea and air - unlucky, NI, you share a border with Eire - and everyone coming in gets tested and put in quarantine for 14 days. Bonus points for catching all the other infectious diseases like TB.
But no, first the famous people will have a moan up on social media that we're living under the Gestapo so they'll get a pass. Then it'll be the slave maid they've shipped in from the Philippines and so on until we're practically back to no borders again 
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One of the countries who flatly refuse to take in Gimmedats. Not very left wing of them. Hungary is far from a commie country. It's very right wing. |
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"Following the defeat of Nazi Germany, Hungary became a satellite state of the Soviet Union."
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You're not the only cunt on the forum who can quote stuff. |
I know your wardrobe is naturally a bit “retro”, but 1989 was over 30 years ago. In the present, you know, as in now, real life, the PM of Hungary is about as far right as an EU country can get. It is definitely not commie as you spouted.
If you want to join the forum cunts, at least get your facts straight.
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One thing that's not been mentioned but will surely happen is a post Corona baby boom.
A bit like the post WW2 baby boom, but probably worse since folk trapped indoors with nothing better to do than procreate, and much procreation will come from the welfare class.
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