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PostPosted: 02:18 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Re: Dodgy Facebook prize raffles. Reply with quote

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Has anyone else noticed this new craze of sponsored ads on Facebook selling raffle tickets for bikes and cars?

Nope.
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fools cannot be protected from having their money taken from them. It's called the idiot tax.

If you educate them against one scam another pops up with a slightly different MO. If you help them through the process of recovering their lost money, that just becomes money that is sitting there waiting to be lifted from their pockets yet again.

There are some really easy to spot scams out there & most of us would wonder how on earth anyone would part with their hard earned in falling for them, but there are also some very hard to spot ones that most of us will have fallen for at some point in our lives.

The financial industry is so systemically corrupted by scams that many have now passed into the mainstream. The food industry, retail, nearly all aspects of your life will be bombarded by scams so that it has become very difficult to spot them.

These prize draw raffles fit well on FB, there they will find an abundance of their target demographic.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

JackButler wrote:
Fools cannot be protected from having their money taken from them. It's called the idiot tax.

If you educate them against one scam another pops up with a slightly different MO. If you help them through the process of recovering their lost money, that just becomes money that is sitting there waiting to be lifted from their pockets yet again.

There are some really easy to spot scams out there & most of us would wonder how on earth anyone would part with their hard earned in falling for them, but there are also some very hard to spot ones that most of us will have fallen for at some point in our lives.

The financial industry is so systemically corrupted by scams that many have now passed into the mainstream. The food industry, retail, nearly all aspects of your life will be bombarded by scams so that it has become very difficult to spot them.

These prize draw raffles fit well on FB, there they will find an abundance of their target demographic.


Do you run seminars on this shite?

You really should.

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PostPosted: 07:55 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you run seminars on this shite?

You really should.

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No, but I did once volunteer with a local group that helps to sort out debt & finance for the feeble.

Joke about it if you like, but there's folk out there really suffering 'cos someone cannot manage money responsibly.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

JackButler wrote:
Fools cannot be protected from having their money taken from them. It's called the idiot tax.

If you educate them against one scam another pops up with a slightly different MO. If you help them through the process of recovering their lost money, that just becomes money that is sitting there waiting to be lifted from their pockets yet again.

There are some really easy to spot scams out there & most of us would wonder how on earth anyone would part with their hard earned in falling for them, but there are also some very hard to spot ones that most of us will have fallen for at some point in our lives.


True-dat. People STILL fall for pyramid selling schemes.

I suppose a raffle IS a very basic pyramid scheme.

Hardest one I find to combat, and I get it all the time on ebay with motorcycle parts, is bait and switch. I've stopped buying brake pads off ebay now. I more often than not get sent a different brand to the one I ordered.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it's the medium quality products that are tricky to find on eBay. I don't mind paying £2 and getting rubbish but £20 often gets you identical rubbish.

Best thing to do with the Facebook ads is report them as scams. My FB feed used to be flooded with "Shock news as Jason Statham quits Hollywood..." and then it's a fake interview where he supposedly reveals a new way to make money from a stock app or some such Sad I've kept up reporting them and now rarely see 'em.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Facebook? What's Facebook??
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Facebook? What's Facebook??


Remember Teletext? Its a bit like that but with photos of people's dinner.


Ah right - so you can buy package holidays on it and see the football results - excellent!
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
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Remember Teletext? Its a bit like that but with photos of people's dinner.


Ah right - so you can buy package holidays on it and see the football results - excellent!


Yeah, and if you wait long enough, all the same shit scrolls past again, only more garbled.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If people are stupid enough to buy a virtual raffle ticket and trust that a fully legitimate draw will in fact be made, then Confused

Bit like crowdfunding a product that doesn't exist.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 03 Apr 2020    Post subject: Re: Dodgy Facebook prize raffles. Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
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Has anyone else noticed this new craze of sponsored ads on Facebook selling raffle tickets for bikes and cars?

Nope.

Must be targeted marketing.
JackButler wrote:
Fools cannot be protected,
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 03 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect some of the well known ones are legit draws but they are good money making schemes for the owners.

Offer £40k car as prize
Sell £50k worth of tickets
Winner gets drawn legitimately
Offer winner £35k cash because they didn't actually think about running costs of a fancy car.
£10-15k for doing basically nothing.
Repeat.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 04 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
I suspect some of the well known ones are legit draws but they are good money making schemes for the owners.

Offer £40k car as prize
Sell £50k worth of tickets
Winner gets drawn legitimately
Offer winner £35k cash because they didn't actually think about running costs of a fancy car.
£10-15k for doing basically nothing.
Repeat.


Ah yes the 21st century version of the old newspaper advert scheme ..

Send £10 to PO Box *** learn how to make a fortune from your armchair.

Receive a letter saying ' Put this advert in a newspaper'
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 04 Apr 2020    Post subject: Re: Dodgy Facebook prize raffles. Reply with quote

JackButler wrote:
Fools cannot be protected,


The guilty can still be being punished.

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PostPosted: 19:54 - 04 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friend of work colleague won a bike from there, paid £10 for a ZX10R Laughing

Some are likely scams, some certainly are not.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 04 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a friend that was close to some people running a retro video game group that often ran these raffles. Turned out every so often they would just hand pick someone they know to win and pocket all the money, usually £200+.
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PostPosted: 05:12 - 05 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
I find it's the medium quality products that are tricky to find on eBay. I don't mind paying £2 and getting rubbish but £20 often gets you identical rubbish.

Best thing to do with the Facebook ads is report them as scams. My FB feed used to be flooded with "Shock news as Jason Statham quits Hollywood..." and then it's a fake interview where he supposedly reveals a new way to make money from a stock app or some such Sad I've kept up reporting them and now rarely see 'em.


Reporting ads to a Bot.

I don't think the bot gives a jot.

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Then pluck it out.

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PostPosted: 09:09 - 05 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

saw a couple yesterday

one for an audi quattro from the 80s and the other was for lego that's not yet available

the audi one used a picture taken at an event I went to so know its not real
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 08 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some are real, some aren't.

A mate runs one just on a Facebook group, for fishing equipment.

Doesn't even have a website - everything is done via bank transfer or PayPal and Facebook messenger.

However, its well run, has 1500 members, runs about 4 raffles a month.

Winners can choose from a range of products which then get sent to their home address, or just a cash option. Every now and again he runs one at cost, or high profit with profits going to a charity chosen by the group.

In his case he started it just because he likes fishing - it doesn't really make huge amounts (a few hundred a month) and TBH with the time required to do everything manually itz barely worth it.

On the flip side its not his main income (so no need to make a lot), costs and overheads are low, and it means he keeps involved with the community and has the odd day out fishing

Relies heavily on trust, admittedly. Offering options means prizes are purchased once the winner confirms what they want. In one case the price of the prize went up before the draw took place so he ended up putting his hand in his pocket to cover the prize.

Weve actually thought about setting one up for bike gear and trackdays...same reason really...just to make sure we actually keep doing them!
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 08 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

Yeah, and if you wait long enough, all the same shit scrolls past again, only more garbled.

And almost always with a spelling error that was not generated by the poster, so you feel like a bitch for pointing it out Brick Wall

Can't say I've noticed said raffles, and I am so not clicking your link, "-"* ... else they will then think I want to receive them too.



*wtf am I supposed to call you, ya daft old bugger? I'm not lowering my standards to the D-word, and I am getting annoyed with typing "-" all the time cos my Italian keyboard puts the symbols in all different places than an English one.
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