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Posted: 20:59 - 29 Oct 2019 Post subject: Labour and Antisemitism |
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Given we're soon to have a General Election I'm sure this will crop up again in the media soon.
I continue to be confused about this Antisemitism thing...
Is it the case that Corbyn hates Jews because he backs the Palestinians or the other way round: because he backs the Palestinians he incidentally hates Jews?
And why back the Palestinians anyway? Is it in the Great British Tradition of backing a losing side? "No I don't follow England in the World Cup but I do keep up with what's going on in the Gaza Strip!"
Or is it just a default position you fall into from chasing the Muslim vote?
"But we need to return Palestine to its people!" is not an answer. It was not the Palestinians' land in the first place, it was ours i.e. the British Empire...
Wikipedia wrote: | The region has been controlled by numerous peoples, including Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, Israelites and Judeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Achaemenids, ancient Greeks, the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom, Romans, Parthians, Sasanians, Byzantines, the Arab Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid caliphates, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mamluks, Mongols, Ottomans, the British, and modern Israelis, Jordanians, Egyptians and Palestinians. |
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Stuff gets hopelessly conflated because Israel is a Jewish state so most Israelies are Jewish. Criticising Israel is then de-facto criticising Jews.
It appears you can't be anti Israeli policy without being accused of being anti-semetic and it's a fact that Israel does NOT play nicely with their neighbours (both currently and in ancient history).
The trouble is each nation (both the people and the government) in the area is made up of religious fundamentalists. Having the BELIEF that what you are doing is absolutely right, ordained by God and that the other person is fundamentally wrong does not make for easy political relationships.
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It seems very self-defeating: railing against arguably the most "Western-looking" of the middle eastern countries to court some votes in this country.
If the currency of success in Westminster is how many seats you have it seems strange to chase down minority votes at the expanse of alienating the majority.
A simple example: the Lib-Dems have recently come out with two block-busters - old people are fucking gits for voting for Leave and, if elected, they would do their best to cancel Brexit.
Cornwall used to be a Lib-Dem stronghold until recently. But Cornwall voted something like 56% Leave and is also a place people go to retire.
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Cornwall used to be a Lib-Dem stronghold until recently. But Cornwall voted something like 56% Leave and is also a place people go to retire.
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stinkwheel wrote: | Stuff gets hopelessly conflated because Israel is a Jewish state so most Israelies are Jewish. Criticising Israel is then de-facto criticising Jews.
It appears you can't be anti Israeli policy without being accused of being anti-semetic and it's a fact that Israel does NOT play nicely with their neighbours (both currently and in ancient history). |
Surely that's no different to how being anti Muslim is seen as racism? It's a religion which is rampant with intolerance, homophobia, sexism, violence, a hatred of non Muslims and of dubious morals with regards to sex with minors.
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Easy-X wrote: | you can't trust someone who'd turn down a good bacon sandwich on a Sunday morning! |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 214 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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