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 Posted: 11:42 - 07 Apr 2020 Post subject: Litre Bikes - Advice/Opinions please. |
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Hi all,
As soon as this "situation" is showing signs of coming to an end, I shall be looking to get back on 2 wheels ASAP, to which end I am coming to you for your advice, experiences and opinions
Despite being the very wrong side of my mid thirties, I'm still very much a sport bike rider, at least until such time I can't handle the riding positions so I'll be looking for the best litre bike for around £5000. It'll probably only ever be for road use but I may be tempted to the odd track day in the future, possibly, maybe.....
The only litre bikes I've ever ridden are RSV's (having had two in the past) so I'm looking for one of the fours from Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Honda. If my budget was endless, yes I'd have more options but as it stands, £5000 will be plenty to put a smile back on my mug. I've obviously trawled the 'net for reviews and various articles on R1's, 'Blades, ZX-10's and GSXR's but I would much rather hear from you lot in the real world.
Thanks in advance guys and girls  ____________________ Current Bike:-Suzuki GSXR 1000 - K3
Past Bikes:- ZX6-R, ZX7-R, RSV Mille x2 (1st Gen). |
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In all honesty, having had an early 99 R1, I can say that whilst a great bike and fast in a straight line, it's way too much to enjoy on the road.
When something can break the NSL in first gear, it's almost impossible to thrash without risking losing your licence.
I have more fun ragging a 250 2 stroke race rep and with a few bends thrown in, can easily keep up with mates on litre 4 pots. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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| - wrote: | In all honesty, having had an early 99 R1, I can say that whilst a great bike and fat in a straight line, it's way too much to enjoy on the road.
When something can break the NSL in first gear, it's almost impossible to thrash without risking losing your licence.
I have more fun ragging a 250 2 stroke race rep and with a few bends thrown in, can easily keep up with mates on litre 4 pots. |
Okay I'm not a 'sports rider' by any means, but having recently gone from a FZS600 to an FZ1 I have to say the 600 was more fun than the litre bike. It's just too powerful to be challenging. ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
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A good friend has had more R1's than I have had hot dinners (no he doesn't crash them all ) and swears by them.
I can't even sit on one without getting back ache though. I am old.
My knowledge of sports bikes is extremely limited though, the nearest thing to one I had was a busa. I have to say I love large engines, mine being a much detuned 1200, but as said, it's so easy to lose you licence nowadays on something that fast.
I doubt if there is a bad modern litre sports bike. It's really down to choice. I have heard the Gixxer and Blades are the easiest to live with. The R1 is most track focused and the Kwack is green.  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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| - wrote: | I have more fun ragging a 250 2 stroke race rep and with a few bends thrown in, can easily keep up with mates on litre 4 pots. |
Agreed there but £5000 won't buy me a broken Aprilla RS250 or an RGV these days as much as would love an old 2 stroker
| Andy_Pagin wrote: | I have to say the 600 was more fun than the litre bike |
I've had a ZX-6R and ZX-7R which were both great bikes (especially the ZX7!) but having had the RSV, I loved the torque and usability without having to thrash the tit's off it, so a litre 4 would be more to my liking, or so I imagine anyway, having never ridden one!
| Polarbear wrote: | I doubt if there is a bad modern litre sports bike. It's really down to choice. I have heard the Gixxer and Blades are the easiest to live with. The R1 is most track focused and the Kwack is green. Thumbs Up |
I'm sure all of the choices are ultimately going to make me a happy bunny because I doubt there could be much to choose between any of them, like you quite rightly said, it's more of a personal choice, but I'm hoping some on here will have first hand experience I can draw on when deciding I guess.
Oh and yes, the Kwack is indeed green. I've had a couple and wouldn't have another unless it was green  ____________________ Current Bike:-Suzuki GSXR 1000 - K3
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| TheIncredibleSulk wrote: | | Hong Kong Phooey wrote: | K5 GSXR1000, or 2008 blade were regarded by some ad the pinnacle of performance of their era, good budget to buy the best of either.
No ABS or electronic rider A.I.D.S. though if that bothers you. |
I've heard nothing but good things about the K5 so I've been swaying towards that direction but I'm hoping to draw on some personal experiences of any of the "big four".
The '08 'Blade gets very good reviews but as superficial as it may be, that's not got the prettiest of looks, however that may be as I haven't been around one in the flesh, so to speak?
I'm not at all fussed about ABS or any kind of rider aids because I've never experienced them, so I don't know what I'm missing!  |
I had a K5 1000, and can honestly say it's the best bike I've ever owned (and probably ever ridden day to day - used to have access to a fairly large selection on a regular basis). Torque literally everywhere in the range, stupidly easy to ride fast, and a pussycat around town in traffic if you need. I can recommend getting a custom tune, removing the SET valve and getting the timing retard removed.
Wouldn't recommend it on the motorways for more than a few hours though (but the raised rearsets didn't help with that either). ____________________ DILLIGAF |
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| xX-Alex-Xx wrote: | I had a K5 1000, and can honestly say it's the best bike I've ever owned (and probably ever ridden day to day - used to have access to a fairly large selection on a regular basis). Torque literally everywhere in the range, stupidly easy to ride fast, and a pussycat around town in traffic if you need. I can recommend getting a custom tune, removing the SET valve and getting the timing retard removed.
Wouldn't recommend it on the motorways for more than a few hours though (but the raised rearsets didn't help with that either). |
That's really helpful, cheers
As I've eluded to previously, I was edging towards the K5 (or later) but wanted opinions and experiences from guys (and girls) who have "been there, done that", so thanks again. ____________________ Current Bike:-Suzuki GSXR 1000 - K3
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| TheIncredibleSulk wrote: | | - wrote: | I have more fun ragging a 250 2 stroke race rep and with a few bends thrown in, can easily keep up with mates on litre 4 pots. |
Agreed there but £5000 won't buy me a broken Aprilla RS250 or an RGV these days as much as would love an old 2 stroker
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£5,000 would but you a TDR250 which are, if you've never tried one, probably the most fun on 2 wheels. You could also get a mint TZR250 for that.
There's a 1KT (parallel twin) for £3.3K, a 3MA (reverse cylinder) for £4.2K and a 3VX (V twin) for £4K, all needing very light restoration on Ebay.
Bear in mind, these will actually go up in value the longer you own them, not down. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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