My mate de restricted my moped and I am now facing fines

[Pheww]

Hi, I have a Peugeot v clic.

My mate has a aprilia rs4 125 and he always leaves me in the dust when we ride together. The other day he said you can de restrict peds to get more power out of them. I told him that i didnt want to spend time and money on a 50cc ped, seeing I will be on a 125 soon anyway.

A couple days ago I had to leave the moped at his place because the battery died, so I took the battery home and charged it. The next i went over to his place to get my bike, when riding it home (about 3 miles) I noticed it was faster and accelerated much quicker.

Unfortunately, I was doing about 42 in a 30 zone, a police car was behind me and flashed his lights. I pulled over and he told me that I was way over the speed limit, he was also suspicious that a 50cc could go that fast. He actually knew a bit about bikes and was adamant it was de restricted.

He charged me with driving otherwise in accordance and no insurance since it was now void with the de restriction.

How fucked am I? I really cant afford this, and will I be able to get a 125cc?

Thanks in advance.

[bhinso]

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And "Sock of the Year goes to..."

I left my moped round my mates and without my permission, he de-restricted it, then forced me to do 42mph in a 30 zone with a police car behind me.
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[spottedtango]

Your mate didn’t tell you he derestricted it and you just rode it away? This is a bizarre story man.

In all honesty I don’t think there’s much chance of getting out of it unless you park the bike back round at your mates. It magically restricts itself and you can ask the police to dyno the 4hp it should be putting out

[stinkwheel]

If they throw the book at you, you get up to 6 points, up to £1000 fine for the LC20 offence.

They aren't throwing the book at you though, because they could also have seized your bike on the spot so you'd have had to walk home, then arranged to collect it from the impound yard on payment of the recovery fee (and on a trailer, unless you had an appropriate licence).

If he clocked you at 42, you're pretty much screwed on this point because your moped was doing over 30mph.

The insurance point is arguable because you do actually have an insucrance certificate for the vehicle. But again, another potential 6 points and £1000 fine.

Didn't do you for speeding though.

Both absolute offences as far as I'm aware so it doesn't matter what your excuse is for riding a de-restricted moped, you were the one doing it.

So worst case. 12 points, £2000 fine and a totting up ban.

The insurance offense in-particular would screw you over on premiums big-time because you have to declare it for 5 years.

Best case, they drop the insurance one and you get an offer of a 3 point and £100 fixed penalty for the LC20.

My advice, if they offer you a 3 point fixed penalty, grab it with both hands and chalk it up to experience. Anything else, take further, more informed advice. Particularly regarding the driving without insurance charge because you still technically had road traffic act insurance. Print out a hard copy of your certificate of motor insurance now and keep it somewhere safe.

Oddly, even if you get 6 points, it doesn't screw you over in terms of your licence. You can have up to 12 points on a provisional. Once you pass your test, the new drivers act kicks in. If your licence goes over 6 points in the first 2 years after passing, your licence is revoked and you have to start again from scratch. If it was over 6 points when you passed, one more point will do it.

Do NOT ignore any paperwork. it will not go away by itself. If you are summonsed to court. A personal appearance and a contrite attitude can work wonders. Especially if you demonstrrate some driver improvement (like lessons, a bikesafe course or passing your test). If you don't think you can stand up and not be lippy, plead by post. In either case, DO fill in the means test form, if you don't, they just hand you down the standard fine.

The "The bigger boy did it then ran away" defence probably won't hold much water. The "I'm really sorry, there's no excuse, learned my lesson and it wont happen again. I've done my test now, I really need my bike to go to work, please be gentle with me." plea is often a good one.

If you hear nothing more within 6 months, you are a lucky bastard.

EDIT: You might get that lucky given coronavirus. If they don't have you (or your case, they might yet make special arrangements for trying cases remotely) up in court within 6 months, you can move to have the case dismissed... However you need to handle that process correctly and would need proper advice on how to do so.
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[Riejufixing]

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[Boxing]

Sounds like a typical 16 year old, derestricts bike then goes full throttle everywhere. Most mopeds need their exhaust removing and a restriction removing and welding back up, at least they did when I was riding them. No way has his "friend" done it and for free.

Also how did you miss a police car up your chuff? Sounds like poor obs.

You ever see a car come flying up behind you when you're speeding nine times out of ten it's police.

[Nobby the Bastard]

My insurance went down when I got 6 points for speeding....
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[pepperami]

Your mate deristricted your bike without telling you.... yer right!

What you mean is you got caught with your derestricted bike and now you’re looking for a way to wiggle out of it.
Just admit you were a naughty boy and accept the court judgement.
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[Pheww]

[MarJay]

[Easy-X]

"Took the variator out" pull the other one! If it didn't have a variator what would the CVT belt go round to get you to 42mph

If I discovered "all of a sudden like" that my bike could do over 40 when yesterday it could only do 30 I'd be worried it was about to blow up
and gingerly make my way home till dad got a look at it (thinking back to when I was 16.) Kids today don't seem to have survival instincts
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[notbike]

Fuck he must have put the red power band on it.

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[Fisty]

Good evening Tritey, lockdown getting to you?
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[martin734]

I hope you have understanding parents or live somewhere with good public transport because it is probably going to be a while before you are riding or driving anywhere. Regardless of whether or not you knew your bike had had been de-restricted, the speeding is entirely your fault and failing to carry out correct obs and spotting the plod behind you was equally daft. There is also almost no way you are going to convince a magistrate that you didn't realise your bike had been de-restricted. You knew it should have been capable of only 30 mph and that legally you can only ride a moped that is restricted to 30 mph. Because you were riding at more than 30 you must have reasonably known that your bike had been de-restricted and that you were no longer complying with your licence restrictions. The insurance is a slightly grey area and you may be lucky and the magistrate may take pity on you. But the reality is you are still looking at at least 6 points on your licence and fines and cost of a few hundred £'s if you are lucky. Given the offences you are being done for, your age and lack of riding experience, very few insurance companies will be prepared to cover you from now and those that do will be horrifically expensive, probably for the next 5 years. Do not even think about "forgetting" to tell your insurance company about any fines or points. They can and will find out and then you will probably end up married before you are driving. The short answer is you are fucked, the only question is whether they use lube or not.
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[stinkwheel]

However, they'll probably offer a fixed penalty with 3 points and a £100 fine like they do to people not displaying their L-plates, (which is the same LC20 offence of driving outwith the conditions of your licence). Because it's easy money and they have bigger fish to fry just now.
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[martin734]

I hope so, and if they do I hope he learns from it.
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[stinkwheel]

[martin734]

If he had nicked one he would probably have got away with it. The plod are too busy chasing dog walkers with drones and searching peoples shopping trolleys for illicit Easter eggs to investigate any actual crimes.
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