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Posted: 00:21 - 05 May 2020 Post subject: How will a second wave be prevented? |
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At present, lockdown exists to reduce the spread of the virus and flatten the curve to ensure the NHS can cope with the numbers.
Well, as soon as lockdown is lifted, pubs, bars, parks, restaurants, gyms etc all open back up, ALL those people who stuck to lockdown religiously and have not yet had the virus will be at a huge risk.
Imagine an infected person walking into a completely rammed pub (because everyone is going to be out since they can finally enjoy their freedom), the spread will be huge.
I don't understand how a second wave can be prevented until a vaccine is widely available. I think herd immunity would have made more sense, and prevented the collapse of the economy at the same time. ____________________ To shreds you say? Tss tss tss |
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Posted: 00:44 - 05 May 2020 Post subject: Re: How will a second wave be prevented? |
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EazyDuz wrote: | At present, lockdown exists to reduce the spread of the virus and flatten the curve to ensure the NHS can cope with the numbers.
Well, as soon as lockdown is lifted, pubs, bars, parks, restaurants, gyms etc all open back up, ALL those people who stuck to lockdown religiously and have not yet had the virus will be at a huge risk.
Imagine an infected person walking into a completely rammed pub (because everyone is going to be out since they can finally enjoy their freedom), the spread will be huge.
I don't understand how a second wave can be prevented until a vaccine is widely available. I think herd immunity would have made more sense, and prevented the collapse of the economy at the same time. |
There won't be what the media happily call a "second wave", the contagion will just flare up again, which is why "lifting lockdown", such as it is, will only happen gradually, carefully, not all at once. Look at Spain's for instance, which was much more rigorous than ours. It's only about a week since they started letting children under 14 out of their houses *at all*, and then only when accompanied by an adult, and only within a short distance of their houses. The Jerries have re-imposed some of their measures after an increase in cases.
The press here are all gung-ho for "we're lifting lockdown", which is not at all true, and is an unhelpful thing for them to say. |
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4% of the world's population, 25% of the number of globally registered deaths and today I saw four old scroats in the communal swimming pool at the trailer park where I was working today. Preventing a second wave, not happening in the land of the stupid... ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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Posted: 02:57 - 05 May 2020 Post subject: |
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A second wave can't be avoided.
When lockdown is relaxed, the virus will start spreading again.
Winter is coming. |
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Posted: 04:49 - 05 May 2020 Post subject: |
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Well at least pneumonia deaths are down. How strange.
https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/0cfbc41807f164864433d829c8543f28f92e6f45d6e430fcf7e91a13624c5b42.jpg
Forget vaccines though. This particular coronavirus has mutated oddly, in that it has a acquired a section of genes that are entirely absent from the Sars genome, (but bear resemblance to those found in HIV and Ebola, how strange), encoded to target the receptor protein furin in human cells, and not the much rarer ACE2 receptor protein that Sars attaches to. This equates to a massive gain of function in contagion and resistance to vaccine.
To quote Dr. Shi Zhengli, who is researching the generation of chimeric virus' expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS -CoV backbone, using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, in the countries only BSL 4 lab, the Key Labarotory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, in Wuhan. (pure coincidence).
"Both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralise and protect from Cov's using the novel spike protein".
Of course this won't prevent mr. Gates and his allies in the ID 2020 alliance and elsewhere attempting to make billions whilst microchipping the planet, under the pretext of prevention. |
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Posted: 09:23 - 05 May 2020 Post subject: Re: How will a second wave be prevented? |
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EazyDuz wrote: | At present, lockdown exists to reduce the spread of the virus and flatten the curve to ensure the NHS can cope with the numbers.
Well, as soon as lockdown is lifted, pubs, bars, parks, restaurants, gyms etc all open back up, ALL those people who stuck to lockdown religiously and have not yet had the virus will be at a huge risk.
Imagine an infected person walking into a completely rammed pub (because everyone is going to be out since they can finally enjoy their freedom), the spread will be huge.
I don't understand how a second wave can be prevented until a vaccine is widely available. I think herd immunity would have made more sense, and prevented the collapse of the economy at the same time. |
Won't happen. Pubs, especially will be one of the last things to open.
It will go schools, businesses who can guarantee distancing, restaurants, then finally pubs when either a vaccine is found or the Chinese Virus fizzles out. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 11:38 - 05 May 2020 Post subject: |
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stinkwheel wrote: | Riejufixing wrote: | Oh and also, don't forget that it's likely that only about 7 million people have been infected in the UK so far. For herd immunity to happen we need a) a lasting immunity, not yet confirmed, and b) a much higher percentage infected. Think about the consequences of that. |
According to a very small and confounded poll on BCF, 35% of users on this forum may have had it.
Extrapolated ot the Uk population, that would be 23 million.
There ends todays lesson in tabloid statistics. |
3% (see poll), OTOH, is 2,010,000. I don't know what "tabloid statistics" have to do with anything (e.g. the tabloids that picked up on the derided Oxford estimation, ans most certainly not a BCF poll! |
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Rebel wrote: | Well at least pneumonia deaths are down. How strange. |
That's a good point about this year's pneumonia cases being automatically assigned to Covid19. It's also been said that the end of year "deaths from all causes" will not be proportionately higher than other years because many of the vulnerable would have succumbed from other causes.
Rebel wrote: | Forget vaccines though. |
Anti-vaxxer?
Rebel wrote: | This particular coronavirus has mutated oddly, in that it has a acquired a section of genes that are entirely absent from the Sars genome, (but bear resemblance to those found in HIV and Ebola, how strange), encoded to target the receptor protein furin in human cells, and not the much rarer ACE2 receptor protein that Sars attaches to. This equates to a massive gain of function in contagion and resistance to vaccine.
To quote Dr. Shi Zhengli, who is researching the generation of chimeric virus' expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS -CoV backbone, using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, in the countries only BSL 4 lab, the Key Labarotory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, in Wuhan. (pure coincidence). |
No coincidence, the problem was centred in Chinese bats so obviously China was a centre of research.
This seems to be the quoted scientific paper, from 2015, co-written by Chinese, American and Swiss scientists.
Rebel wrote: | Of course this won't prevent mr. Gates and his allies in the ID 2020 alliance and elsewhere attempting to make billions whilst microchipping the planet, under the pretext of prevention. |
You are mpd72's ginger step-brother and I claim my 5 ponds.
Why the hate for The Gates Foundation? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 348 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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